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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:35 pm

I'm with Peter--if it's not made with Seville oranges, it's not real marmalade. I love orange marmalade but I've never attempted to make it myself.

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Peter May » Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:02 pm

The chore, Paul, is removing the pips - there is a multitude of them - and cutting the peel in the thickness you prefer
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jeff Grossman » Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:13 pm

And there is no people on Earth who enjoy talking about marmalade more than the English:
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/f ... althy-life

Read the letters. Some of them are great.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:07 pm

Peter May wrote:The chore, Paul, is removing the pips - there is a multitude of them - and cutting the peel in the thickness you prefer


The first time I bought Seville oranges it took me back to childhood in the 1960s. These days most varieties of eating oranges have few if any pips, lots of juice, and thin, easy to remove rinds. Back then there were no common seedless varieties and the oranges were hard to peel. Seville oranges haven't changed since the 1960s.

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Dale Williams » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:00 pm

New green to me, Tokyo bekana
https://www.edibleuprisingfarm.com/tokyo-bekana
They describe as like Napa, bok choy and lettuce, I would say more between lettuce and celtuce,
But fun to try something new.
Also, my fishmonger has had cod cheeks a couple of times recently (I'm more familiar with halibut cheeks or hamachi collar). More intense and succulent than cod flesh, very much enjoyed. First time they were the size of med-large sea scallops, Sunday a couple were the size of an entire scallop shell.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by DanS » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:37 pm

Paul Winalski wrote:Shades of "kiwi fruit" vs. "Chinese gooseberries".

The one I shop at has a lot of Latin-x, Brazillian, and Asian clientele and has an exceptionally strong produce department. Among the items sold in this store but not the others is Seville (sour) oranges. I have a few Latina recipes that call for the juice of sour oranges.

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So where is this MB? I've been looking for a good source for Mexican, etc. ingredients and I haven't found one.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:15 pm

Dan, this is the Market Basket in the plaza at exit 8 off the Everett Turnpike in Nashua. I don't do Mexican so I can't speak to their coverage of those ingredients. They do regularly carry sour oranges and several of the Central American starchy tubers. They carry a good selection of Asian produce (Thai basil, curry leaves, bok choy and Shanghai tips, bitter melon, Thai and Indian eggplant, various Southeast Asian greens, fresh ginger, fresh galangal), but not everything all the time. Availability of any particular ingredient on any given day is unpredictable. I go to Saigon Market in Manchester NH when shopping for something I need there and now.

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jenise » Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:36 pm

Dale Williams wrote:New green to me, Tokyo bekana
https://www.edibleuprisingfarm.com/tokyo-bekana
They describe as like Napa, bok choy and lettuce, I would say more between lettuce and celtuce,
But fun to try something new.
Also, my fishmonger has had cod cheeks a couple of times recently (I'm more familiar with halibut cheeks or hamachi collar). More intense and succulent than cod flesh, very much enjoyed. First time they were the size of med-large sea scallops, Sunday a couple were the size of an entire scallop shell.


New green to me, too, though I hasten to add that the stores I shop at in Canada have more greens than I've gotten around to trying. This might be one of them. In general, if it's green and leafy I love it, so it's not like anything new is risky. It's just that my trips to same are infrequent, so I am usually hellbent on stocking up on things I'm missing vs. trying new (to me) ones.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:35 pm

I learned recently that the dried tulsi (holy basil) that I bought at an Indian grocery needs to be carefully washed before use. The last dish I used it in had some grit. I didn't have this problem with the dried holy basil from Thailand that I bought at importfood.com (alas, they don't carry it anymore).

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jenise » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:47 pm

So Kenji Alt-Lopez is now a Seattle resident and one of the only so-called celebrities I follow on IG. I wouldn't have even done that if I hadn't noticed that he moved to Seattle, and I wondered why. Figured I'd read through some of his things to figure that out and then dump it.

I never dumped it. Instead I've come to like and admire him enormously. He's a brave, kind, fair and curious soul, the kind who truly makes the world a better place. Many of us wish we could do better; but he DOES better. He recently opened up about his alcoholism and mentioned a significant milestone in days sober. Backfilling, I'm guessing this was behind his move to Seattle--selling his California restaurant/beer hall and cutting ties with his drinking buddies.

His new life in Seattle obviously agrees with him--his new book Wok was a big success and he and his wife had a new baby last year. He skis often and bikes all over town. He writes for the NY Times. His latest project--he always has at least one on the fire--is visiting every Teriyaki joint in Seattle. He gets the food, eats it pretty much on site--sometimes on the hood of his car or seat of his bike on sunny days, and films himself discussing the results.

So what I've learned so far is that Teriyaki is a very formulaic thing. I honestly didn't know--I've never been to a Teriyaki joint and I will admit to having a rather snobbish opinion about what I have thought is just meat with a heavy, overly sweet sauce. Every single visit of Kenji's so far has been: iceberg salad with a thin mayo-like dressing, steamed rice, fried gyozas and grilled/sliced chicken thighs. So while each meal has consisted of the same parts, the sameness puts the differences in preparation under a microscope. Slight variations in texture or sweetness and acidity become major. It's been kind of fascinating to watch. And I think I'd like the food.

There's a Teriyaki place down by the Harbor--I'll make a point of trying it out soon.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jenise » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:22 am

So a few days ago we learned that Lays Lightly Salted Potato Chips are outstanding. 'Lightly salted' in my mind translates to 'barely salted', which I usually enjoy, but taste-wise these are a lot more than barely even if the "50% less sodium" claim is accurate. In fact, they're so satisfyingly seasoned we wondered how we could ever enjoy a chip with twice the amount of salt.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:25 pm

I used to buy Lays potato chips all the time. Then about 20 years ago I noticed the legend "NEW improved taste" in the upper corner of the bag. I thought to myself, "Uh-oh, this probably isn't good." And indeed it wasn't. They had increased the salt level to the point where I found the chips almost inedible. I switched to Utz.

My guess is that this "lightly salted" Lays is just a return to their old recipe.

BTW, Lays sells a whole line of flavored potato chips in Thailand. Importfood.com sells several of them here in the US. The Thai have a very different idea of how to flavor a potato chip than Westerners do.

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jeff Grossman » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:49 pm

And there's internet flavors, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__hMt0lKPc
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Larry Greenly » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:46 pm

It's a good thing that Middleswarth BBQ chips are a Pennsylvania regional brand or I'd weigh as much as a container ship.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Jeff Grossman » Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:48 am

I like the 'kettle-cooked' type of chip best.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:09 pm

So do I. Especially Grandma Utz's Kettle-Style chips. These are made in a manner very similar to the very first Utz potato chops. They're cut a bit thicker than usual and kettle-cooked in small batches using lard as opposed to a vegetable oil. Alas, our supermarket doesn't carry them anymore. I have to settle for the regular Utz kettle chips.

I find that the cooking fat makes a big difference in the taste of potato chips. The aforementioned lard-cooked chips are my very favorite. I also like chips made with sunflower or cottonseed oil. I detest canola--I don't use it in cooking and won't buy potato chips made with it.

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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Larry Greenly » Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:37 pm

Jeff Grossman wrote:I like the 'kettle-cooked' type of chip best.


I also like kettle cooked, but I prefer the Middleswarth BBQ thin chips over their kettle-cooked version (although ATK ranked the kettle version #2 in a taste test). It's possible to buy tubs directly from the factory. I think the shipping cost was the same for either one or two boxes, so I convinced my receptionist to order a box, too. Yum. They're like heroin to me.

Paul Winalski wrote: I detest canola--I don't use it in cooking and won't buy potato chips made with it. -Paul W.


I agree. I don't like fishy oil, either. I forgot once and made popcorn with canola oil. >gag< I suppose cats might like it, though.

FWIW, several years ago, I toured the Snyder's and Utz's plants in Pennsylvania. Interesting. I found the pretzel-making machine rather fascinating.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Karen/NoCA » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:37 am

I recall reading an article years ago stating that the way Canola oil was processed made it unhealthy to consume. I can't remember the details but I never liked it anyway. My mother always used Wesson oil and I grew up with that so it was my go-to oil for a long time until olive oil became the "thing". I love Olio Santo, Lisbon Lemon infused, fresh garlic infused, and a few others. I also have Safflower and Sunflower oil in my oil drawer.
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Re: What I learned today (Take Two)

by Paul Winalski » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:25 pm

"Canola" is an acronym for "CANadian Oil Low Acid". Rapeseed is a plant in the genus Brassica (cabbages, mustard, etc.) grown widely for the oil expressed from its seeds. Rapeseed oil has high levels of erucic acid, as also does mustard oil. There were some studies in the 1970s that indicated that erucic acid might be toxic at the levels found in conventional rapeseed and mustard oils. This led to bans on the sale of such oils for use in cooking. Mustard oil sold in the US must be labeled "for external use only", although it's widely sold in Indian groceries (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more). Rapeseed oil is the most popular cooking oil in Sichuan. Rapeseed and mustard oils are typically heated to the smoking point (which breaks down the erucic acid) before food is added. It also tames some of the sinus-clearing pungency of mustard oil.

Cultivars of rapeseed that are very low in erucic acid were developed in Canada, and the resulting oil is called "canola" and is very widely used in processed foods. I don't care for either the aroma or the flavor of canola, myself.

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