Bernard Roth wrote: fresh Gumpoldskirchner whites sold in the Viennese Heurigen - a wine that doesn't ship to the US as far as I know.
Clint Hall wrote:The Austrian wine scandal, a reaction to wines laced with dethylene glycol (I think I'm spelling it right), stuff that goes into antifreeze, was a heck of a bomb. That's history, though, and it's long past time to put that aside.
Bernard Roth wrote:Clint Hall wrote:The Austrian wine scandal, a reaction to wines laced with dethylene glycol (I think I'm spelling it right), stuff that goes into antifreeze, was a heck of a bomb. That's history, though, and it's long past time to put that aside.
Why did I bring it up? Only to explain why there was a decade gap in Austrian wine importation that essentially had to reboot at the same time that Americans were discovering the terrific (in some cases) wines grown in our own country. The barrier to overcome was not so much spoiled reputation (consumer memory is short) but total invisibility.
Michael Pronay wrote:Sure it wasn't Hermann Maier plummeting spectacularly in the downhill race at Nagano in the 1998 Olympics, followed by equally spectacular triumphs in the super-G and giant slalom a few days later? That's from where his nickname ("Herminator") dates from.
Clint Hall wrote:Michael Pronay wrote:Another small particle to the mosaic: The role of a Swedish dentist working in deepest Bavaria, Germany. In the 1990s Jan Erik Paulson, who also deals in fine wines (http://rare-wine.com/), held a series of blind tastings in Vienna, London, Munich, Paris and possibly also New York, featuring top Austrian Grüner Veltliner against top white Grand Cru Burgundies. He chose the GVs, and left it to the locals to chose the Burgundies. (In London it was Jancis Robinson iirc).
I can relate to that. It's not hard to see why GVs could beat out white Burgs, especially if they are both young. It takes a long time for Burgs to open up and develop secondary characteristics while Gruner Veltliners can be marvelous mineral mines on release. For instance, last night my wife and I downed a 2005 Schloss Gobelsburg Renner GV that sells for something on the order of a modest twenty-five bucks, and it delivered several times the pleasure of most young Grand Cru white Burgs. (Will this particular GV be better in a few years? I don't think so, but there are plenty of GVs that will.)
Clint Hall wrote: Actually the scandal about dyethelene glycol (I think I got it right this time) was an interesting piece of wine history.
Clint Hall wrote:Michael, what would you recommend in the way of a GV with several years of age, one that might be available through Winesearcher Pro?
Hoke wrote:Clint, one of the best long-term agers (in my extremely limited experience) was the Schloss Gobelsburg. Sturdy to begin with, it held up and developed nicely in the long term. Don't know how many older GVs are available in the marketplace though. At the tasting I mentioned Theise had to cajole some of his producers to release some of their library cellar stock for the tasting. Good hunting.
Mark Lipton wrote:It was, however, devastating to Austrian wine exports, despite the fact that the wines in question were mostly cheap plonk, and did indirectly result in a tremendous qualitative improvement in Austrian winemaking.
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