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WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby MichaelJ » Tue May 23, 2006 8:51 am

There is a wonderful little restaurant in Sankt Wolfgang, Joseph's, which sits at the feet of the church, just up the hill from the Hotel Weisses Rössl. I had this wine paired with a cheese course.

Delightful. The nose is floral, with a bit of cedar and even perhaps some lead pencil. In the mouth, there are more flowers and some silky cherry fruit. Slightly sweet, but with a good amount of acid, and drying in the finish. A pleasant discovery that went very, very well with the cheese.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Arnt Egil Nordlien » Wed May 24, 2006 3:33 am

Thanks a lot for the note. I love schilcher, but don't find any of these around.

Note that there are confusingly many producers around with the name Jöbstl.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby MichaelJ » Wed May 24, 2006 4:55 am

Arnt Egil Nordlien wrote:Thanks a lot for the note. I love schilcher, but don't find any of these around.

Note that there are confusingly many producers around with the name Jöbstl.


Arnt,

Thanks. I determined as much when attempting to do some research into this wine. I do know that it's from Steiermark, but I'm sure that doesn't provide much help either. :?

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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Michael Pronay » Wed May 24, 2006 6:27 am

No, it really doesn't help, since by law Schilcher has to come from Steiermark. The grape variety is Blauer Wildbacher. 99% is vinified in rosé, and most comes from Weststeiermark, the traditional home of the grape. A little is grown in Südsteiermark, much to the anger of Weststeiermark growers who in vein wanted to protect "Schilcher" for their region only.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Arnt Egil Nordlien » Wed May 24, 2006 7:34 am

Arnt Egil Nordlien wrote:Note that there are confusingly many producers around with the name Jöbstl.


I have a feeling this wine might have been from Luise & Johannes Jöbstl from Wernersdorf. They made a wine named strohwein vom Schilcher in 2003. And it is not a regular thing to make strohwein from schilcher. You can have a look at their homepage http://www.joebstl.st/wine_schilcher/index.cfm
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby MichaelJ » Wed May 24, 2006 9:32 am

Arnt -- You are very good. :) That is it, exactly. Thanks for the website.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby MichaelJ » Wed May 24, 2006 9:42 am

And perhaps while I have your attention, what does "schilcher" mean? I had gotten the varietal as Blauer Wildbacher, and "strohwein" refers to the technique of drying the grapes, but schilcher, I haven't found a good answer.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Michael Pronay » Wed May 24, 2006 9:56 am

MichaelJ wrote:And perhaps while I have your attention, what does "schilcher" mean?

"Schilcher" is the name of the dry rosé vinified from Blauer Wildbacher grapes.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby MichaelJ » Wed May 24, 2006 9:59 am

Michael Pronay wrote:
MichaelJ wrote:And perhaps while I have your attention, what does "schilcher" mean?

"Schilcher" is the name of the dry rosé vinified from Blauer Wildbacher grapes.

And sometimes the answer is right there. :roll: Thanks, Michael.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Arnt Egil Nordlien » Wed May 24, 2006 10:02 am

MichaelJ wrote:what does "schilcher" mean?


It's an old name. I think I heard it derives from schillern. Which would mean shimmer in english.
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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Marc D » Wed May 24, 2006 12:00 pm

Can you tell me a little more about schilcher? Are they typically dry or do some wineries make an off dry rose? What is the usual percent alcohol of these wines? Does anyone import them to the US?

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Re: WTN: Weingut Jöbstl Strohwein vom Schilcher 2003

Postby Michael Pronay » Wed May 24, 2006 2:45 pm

Schilcher normally is totally dry. There are a few eperimenting with off-dry to medium sweet versions, but without real success.
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