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Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Jim Grow wrote:Spottswoode, Dunn, Caymus, Beringer and of course Screagle
Sam Platt
I am Sam, Sam I am
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm
Indiana, USA
Sam Platt wrote:Dunn and Heitz should be on the list. Maybe Caymus SS, and Opus One.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Mark Lipton wrote:If long track record and consistently high quality are the prime considerations, then my nominees are:
Chateau Montelena
RIdge Monte Bello
Caymus SS
Mayacamas
Heitz Martha's Vyd
If we're not limited to 5, and if we relax the track record criterion (slightly), I'd add:
Phelps Insignia
Dunn Howell Mtn
Laurel Glen
Mondavi Reserve (pre-Constellation)
Honorable mention (or Deuxieme Cru?)
Stag's Leap Cask 23
Corison
Shafer Hillside Select
Diamond Creek (choose your vineyard)
Philip Togni
I don't have enough experience with the Johnny-come-latelys (Harlan, Araujo, Dalla Valle, Screagle, Staglin) to be able to judge their place.
Mark Lipton
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Sam Platt
I am Sam, Sam I am
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm
Indiana, USA
Lou Kessler wrote:Heitz a used to be.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Mark Lipton wrote:Lou and Hoke,
Heitz Martha's should have come with an asterisk, as the phylloxera replanting obviously represented a major change that would take decades to overcome. I don't drink many of these wines with any regularity any more, so I'm really talking about their records 1968-1999 more than anything else. I could easily flip-flop Mondavi Reserve with Heitz Martha's in that period, as I think that Mondavi's record was quite consistent. Lou, Caymus SS has never been my cup of tea, but judging others' reactions to it, I'd say it has had a very consistent track record.
Mark Lipton
JC (NC)
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm
Fayetteville, NC
Hoke wrote:
So you're admitting a case of "old fogeyism", eh?
Little harder keeping up these days? Find yourself telling your grad students about what things were like before Parker, when you actually had to go out and taste the wine to know whether you liked it or not? Easier to remember what happened thirty years ago than thirty minutes ago?
Join the club, boyo.
(I don't drink much of that stuff anymore either. I've tasted some, but drink very little of the cited producers in my dotage. Prefer other wines for one; can't afford these, for another.)
Jenise
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James Dietz
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
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