Yossie Horwitz wrote:... and I am confused by your disappointment in Israeli winemakers continuing to try experiment with all varietals...
Adam M wrote:Pinches - I wouldn't have thought that you'd be one to "invest" in any wine that you haven't tried first. So there you are in the proverbial "backseat" debating the legitimacy of a wine that you haven't tried, with a bunch of people, even some quite as exacting as you, who have tried this wine and loved it. In this context, I'm not feeling so persuaded by your arguments.
Craig Winchell wrote:Sorry for joining this discussion so late, becasue I have nothing about Gvaot Pinot. But I do take issue with David's comments about Napa. Napa does both renowned Cab and Pinot only because Napa spans region 1 through region 3, depending upon area. The areas which grow great Pinot typically do not grow great Cab, and vice versa. Carneros, closest to San Pablo Bay, is the coolest area, and the Pinot is typically grown there, one of the cooler wine growing areas of California. To my knowledge, none of the Israeli regions is comparable in heat summation. Although good Pinot can successfully be grown as far north as Yountville, It's still typically too cold there for consistently successful Cab.
Elchonon Hellinger wrote:I dont see Tura having made pinot noir ? going to ask them now.. also kinor dovid in hebron makes a cabarnet pinot noir
Gabriel Geller wrote:Elchonon Hellinger wrote:I dont see Tura having made pinot noir ? going to ask them now.. also kinor dovid in hebron makes a cabarnet pinot noir
Indeed, to the best of my knowledge there is and was not a Tura Pinot. They made a Chardonnay which while not as difficult to grow as PN originates also from Burgundy and needs the cool climate to thrive. Yet it was IMHO not their most successful run. I've tasted the Kinor Dovid Cabernet-PN a few months ago and it was a bit strange. It smelled like the port and also tasted like the port but dry! And I loved the port because it was sweet... Livni in Kiryat Arba made one of my favorite wines with their Pinot '09. Truly unique and not to the liking of everybody but such is life. I've recently opened a bottle of the 2010 Pinot but unfortunately it was badly corked and oxidized so I'll have to give it another shot.
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