New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

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New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:29 pm

Hello Guys and Gals,

The new 2012 Terenal wines are in and really advise you all to try them out. The Malbec is awesome, with lovely blue and black fruit. Close your eyes - I dare you to not think it is an Australian Shiraz with its floral, and blueberry notes.

The 2012 Chardonnay is lovely as well.

http://kosherwinemusings.com/2012/11/14 ... ader-joes/

Bravo to Terrenal and gang (yes I know who they are)..
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Elie Poltorak » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:39 am

Are any of these wines available on the East Coast?
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:22 am

Sure - they all are. Just in NY, they are only available at a few select shops - as the rules for liquor items is more tight.

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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Elie Poltorak » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:14 pm

Anyone know where I can pick some up in NY?
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:04 am

Elie - search on http://www.traderjoes.com/stores/index.asp (enter ny,ny and select sell wine)! :lol:

Trader Joe's Union Square
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138 E 14th St
New York, NY 10003
212-529-6326
Trading Hours:
Mon-Sat: 9am - 10pm
Sun: 12pm - 9pm
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Elie Poltorak » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:30 am

I went there last time you posted about the Terrenal but they didn't have ANY kosher wine. I asked the staff and they had no clue what I was talking about.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:44 am

Interesting, I called them 6 months ago and they said they had all those wines. I will call again soon and see what is going on...

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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:28 pm

Hello Guys,

I just called them and asked specifically for the Terrenal wines and - yes they have them. Again, I am not pushing wines here. If you want it buy it, if not - no worries. The wine is available, and I called, they have both the 2012 Malbec and Chardonnay - just ask for them by name and not by kosher. As they are nice wines - not withstanding the kosher or mevushal fact - and that is not how they are labeled in the Trader Joe's stores.

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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Craig Winchell » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:14 pm

David, I have no problem with anything you have said, except... you sure we're talking about a Malbec which is well under a year old? And you're comparing it to Aussie Shiraz rather than Beaujolais? It's a leap of faith for me, man. On the other hand, the Chardonnay seems very much realistic.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby David Raccah » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:50 pm

Craig - I would love your opinion! Dude we are talking about going to your local Trader Joe's and buying two bottles (Chard and Malbec) for 11 bucks total (including tax). Than tell me! I would love to hear your opinion. I may be wrong and respect your palate - so give it to us baby!!!!

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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Gabriel Geller » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:52 pm

Craig Winchell wrote:David, I have no problem with anything you have said, except... you sure we're talking about a Malbec which is well under a year old? And you're comparing it to Aussie Shiraz rather than Beaujolais? It's a leap of faith for me, man. On the other hand, the Chardonnay seems very much realistic.

Craig you're by far more of an expert than me, but I've never had any Malbec whether 6 months or 3 y.o. that tasted like a Beaujolais. However one might indeed mistake the Teperberg Malbec 2009 for a Shiraz, I'd understand the confusion considering its spicy-plummy fruit profile.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Craig Winchell » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:47 am

Gabe, what I meant was that we're discussing a wine well under a year past harvest in the southern hemisphere. Harvest was probably February, or early March. With that in mind, producing a complete red wine this soon after harvest depends upon the stylistic approach one takes. One stressing early harvest, cool fermentation, early pressing off skins with little addition of press wine, and taking steps to remove tannic profile, is more akin to Beaujolais than Australian Shiraz. Making wine like Aussie Shiraz woiuld likely require far more time before bottling and release. Tasting like Aussie Shiraz implies high ripeness, and should not be conducive to early release like this.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Gabriel Geller » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:56 am

Craig Winchell wrote:Gabe, what I meant was that we're discussing a wine well under a year past harvest in the southern hemisphere. Harvest was probably February, or early March. With that in mind, producing a complete red wine this soon after harvest depends upon the stylistic approach one takes. One stressing early harvest, cool fermentation, early pressing off skins with little addition of press wine, and taking steps to remove tannic profile, is more akin to Beaujolais than Australian Shiraz. Making wine like Aussie Shiraz woiuld likely require far more time before bottling and release. Tasting like Aussie Shiraz implies high ripeness, and should not be conducive to early release like this.

Gotcha-points taken.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Craig Winchell » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:48 pm

My wife purchased the 2 Terrenals in question. One was $3.99/bottle, the other $4.99/bottle. I think I'll wait until Shabbos to open them. Unfortunately, will not be able to take notes. Fortunately, I'll be able to drain the bottles, and report genral feelings about the wines.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Elie Poltorak » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:02 pm

Thanks David!
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Andrew B » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:56 am

I've tried both these wines several times in the past few days. They're pretty good and have come a long way from being the kosher "Two Buck Chuck." A decent wine you don't have to think too hard about.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Craig Winchell » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:17 pm

As I told David, I thought the Chard was worth multiples of its price, but the Malbec left me cold. It was just another mediocre Argentine Malbec. On the other hand, it wasn't worse than that, and it was cheap.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Andrew B » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:41 pm

Craig Winchell wrote:As I told David, I thought the Chard was worth multiples of its price, but the Malbec left me cold. It was just another mediocre Argentine Malbec. On the other hand, it wasn't worse than that, and it was cheap.


I thought it was the "best of the worst" that I've tried (as bad as that might sound) and I much prefer it to Tierra Salvaje, Valero, and others. I also prefer the Chard.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Gabriel Geller » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:40 pm

Well I wish we had wines that decent at such price point in Israel. There are lots of Chilean and Argentinian stuff here for about 25-30 shekel ($ 6.5-7.5) but my experience has taught me to stay away from those...

Yesterday I got a great deal at a cheese shop in Binyamina and bought 2 bottles of Elvi, Mati 09 and Clasico 08 for 40 shekels each ($10.5). Looking forward to taste these. :)
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Harry J » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:55 pm

bsd
ah Andrew Valero thats from 03 if memory serves me,nice bottle@ the time. i too followed Davids lead bought the srar bee and the malbecs,cab taste unseen.h
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Andrew B » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:49 pm

Hi Harry, I don't remember which vintage of Valero it was, only that I didn't like it. As far as Moscayto goes, I prefer Moscato by W (Weinstock) to the SaraBee.
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Re: New 2012 vintages of Terrenal - BRAVO!!!

Postby Harry J » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:30 pm

If were talking "prefer" I'd go w Dalton moscato but we needed 13 bottles so price wise this was good. H
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