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South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Redwinger » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:39 am

I guess this means I won't be buying any So. African wine anytime soon .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20328701
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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Bill Hooper » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:00 pm

Terrible news, but not a new issue there. It does a lot of damage to the idea of a ‘Wine Culture’ in South Africa, which is something that I think they are striving hard to promote. The romance of viticulture and social volatility and oppression (far more important than how a bottle of Pinotage or Chenin Blanc tastes) are not reconcilable. There are certainly some producers who treat their workers well, but I fear that those will be cast into the same boat with the others by headlines like this. Then again, maybe nobody really cares unless the wine tastes good and is cheap enough.

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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Peter May » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:17 pm

Tim James in the Cape has a thoughful piece http://www.grape.co.za/users/tim_james/ ... ughts.html


For recent vintages of SA wines look for the WIETA Ethical seal - see http://www.pinotage.org/2012/09/pinotag ... -seal.html
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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Brian K Miller » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:34 pm

We (Americans) can't be TOO smug given Napa's dependence on often itinerant labor. Although the wages and conditions are of course different. :?
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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Redwinger » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:59 pm

Brian K Miller wrote:We (Americans) can't be TOO smug given Napa's dependence on often itinerant labor. Although the wages and conditions are of course different. :?


OK, then I won't be buying any 'mercan wine anytime soon either. :?
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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Brian K Miller » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:16 pm

We should all just live as hermits to avoid any possible exploitation of our fellow man! :shock:
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Re: South African Vineyard Riots/Strike.

Postby Jon Peterson » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:38 am

So now we'll have "Conflict Wines"?
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