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JC (NC)
Lifelong Learner
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm
Fayetteville, NC
JC (NC) wrote:I hope a solution is found for some of those steep vineyards.
Jon Peterson
The Court Winer
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Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm
The Blue Crab State
Jon Peterson wrote:Just two comments.
As a direct result of the issues described in the manifesto, this summer was the "Summer of Riesling" at least here on the east coast of the US. I went to two Riesling events in the DC area both of which were well attended and perhaps are the beginnings of a greater appreciation of the wonderful wines available.
At the wine shop where I work, customers are always asking for Riesling but from the US, not Germany. I always walk them over to our German wine section and encourage them to try "real" Riesling. Many come back impressed with the many ways this grape can be presented from dry to sweet but always with an acidic backbone that allows it to pair so well with food.
Let's hope we've turned the corner since this article was written in 2010.
Tim York wrote:Some 30+ years ago, I drove along the northern stretch of the Rhône valley and was depressed by the number of abandoned wine growing terraces. I guess that, if I did a similar journey today, most of those terraces would again be covered with vines, helped mostly by the world's thirst for good red wine.
I ardently desire a similar outcome for the Mosel valley and its tributaries and hope that the actions outlined in Ulli Stein's article can be effective.
The best way we wine-lovers can help is to buy more Mosel wine but, for me, the difficulty lies in the limited use I find for wines with marked RS, however delicious. I have rarely had a convincing dry from MSR and, IMO, these wines find their most food friendly balance at the level of traditional Kabinett and some feinherb cuvées. However I have often ranted about the proliferation of "Kabinett" which tastes like rich Spätlese or Auslese and therefore buy less and less without prior tasting.
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34368
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Once again some very good points made here including the discussion on Kabinett and the level of sweetness.
We have another interesting tasting listed for this coming Saturday downtown but alas rather a lack of interest. Most tastings at DeVines are a sell-out but once gain Germany continues to be a poor draw with the wine-buying public for many reasons talked about here of late.
http://devinewines.ca/event.html?id=628
Jon Peterson wrote:As a direct result of the issues described in the manifesto, this summer was the "Summer of Riesling" at least here on the east coast of the US. I went to two Riesling events in the DC area both of which were well attended and perhaps are the beginnings of a greater appreciation of the wonderful wines available.
David M. Bueker wrote:No problem finding uses for unabashedly sweet Mosel Riesling here. I eat a lot of Indian and SE Asian food, so the wines work very well. With those types of food choices the dry wines often taste shrill/metallic.
JC (NC)
Lifelong Learner
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm
Fayetteville, NC
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34368
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Heck man, you could have considered the Mickelsberg!!
David M. Bueker wrote:Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Heck man, you could have considered the Mickelsberg!!
Bob - Piesporter Mickelsberg is a grosslage, and vastly inferior to the single site Goldtropfchen.
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34368
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Heck man, you could have considered the Mickelsberg!!
Bob - Piesporter Mickelsberg is a grosslage, and vastly inferior to the single site Goldtropfchen. It's things such as Piesporter Mickelsberg and Zeller Schwarze Katz (and don't even get me started on things like Black Tower) that damaged the worldwide reputation of German Riesling. That's a problem that is still being fixed in some circles.
David M. Bueker wrote:The Badstube is also a grosslage, though much superior to the swill fest of the general grosslage crowd. There are a number of fine spots in that generic site. The Bernkasteler Lay is quite nice. Loosen sells a kabinett (mostly) from the Lay on a regular basis. Graben, Matheisbildchen & Bratenhöfchen are less familiar names I am sure, but there are good grapes to be had there.
There are many fine wines labeled just as Bernkasteler Badstube. J. J. Prum and Selbach-Oster spring to mind this instant. I'm a big fan. Badstube is the baby that would get thrown out with the bathwater if the obscenty that is the grosslage was eliminated.
Is that enough of a rant? (I've ranted on grosslagen in the past as well.)
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
34368
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
JC (NC)
Lifelong Learner
6679
Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm
Fayetteville, NC
JC (NC) wrote:Actually, it WAS the Piesporter Michelsberg that I drank at the local Gasthaus but back in the USA the market was importing Piesporter Goldtropfchen so our tastes were elevated.
JC (NC) wrote:When I came home from working in Germany the first time, I introduced my parents to Piesporter wines. They in turn offered them to a family friend who had a prominent insurance business in Lincoln, NE. He asked the University Club (restaurant on the top of a tall building in downtown Lincoln) to put Piesporter Goldtropfchen on their wine list which they did, so indirectly I was responsible for putting Piesporter Goldtropfchen on the wine map in Cornhusker country.
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