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Ben Rotter wrote:Reinhold Haart Piesporter Domherr Spätlese 2007
Initially served at 17°C (63°F) - then, perhaps, more appropriately cooler later - for lunch on Sunday.
A very clear, transparent, pure, slightly golden yellow with a green tinge to it.
It immediately smells lovely: delicate, of old forest wood and fungus, lemon and lime rind, cream.
In the mouth it's richly flavoured and slightly honeyed, yet light in weight, with a gentle sweetness, balancing light acidity that plays a supporting role without dominating in any way.
It is simply delicious. I would have liked to see flavours of slate and/or kerosene, but it didn't matter that I didn't because it was very good anyway.
What's even greater is that, at 8.5% abv, one can drink 1.5 times more of this than a 13% abv wine for the same alcohol consumption - which is just as well, because this wine is particularly easy to drink.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
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Paul Rainbow wrote:A local retailer has Klostor Riesling Qualitätswein 2002 on a very attractive sale. Alc 10.5%, residual sugar ~22%, but acid ~7%. Is that a combination that's likely to have aged gracefully for nearly a decade?
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
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Andrew Bair wrote:Two notes, and a ?:
2003 Salomon-Undhof Riesling Undhof Kögl Reserve
Somewhat floral nose. Full-bodied, ripe, broad, dry, well balanced, with good underlying acidity. Very mineral, with pineapple, pear, orange, lemon, and nut flavors. Shows some light notes of ground black pepper on the finish. Excellent, and still has a way to go.
1990 Salomon-Undhof Riesling Kremser Kögl Reserve
Opened about an hour before pouring. Nose of tropical fruits, lychees, and light petrol. Full, round, bone dry, nicely balanced and focused; creamy and rather baroque, with subtler acidity. Tastes of honey, golden fruits, pears, and minerals, with traces of baking spices and coffee. Nice length. Excellent mature dry Riesling – not a showstopper, but a great pairing with a meatier white fish.
Now, for my question(s?): Are Undhof Kögl and Kremser Kögl both names for the same site? Normally, I would not expect them to be, but I have not seen any recent Salomon wines labeled as being from Kremser Kögl. To add to my confusion, I then went to the Traditionsweingüter Österreichisch website (http://www.traditionsweingueter.com/new ... lagen.html), and found a Steiner Kögl among their listing of Erste Lagen for Kremstal. Of course, Salomon is based in Krems-Stein.
If someone could please help me get my vineyard identities straight, I would be very appreciative! Thank you.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
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ChaimShraga wrote:Leitz, Rheingau, Rudesheimer Berg Roseneck, Riesling, Spatlese, 2004
While reserved at first - showing talc and slate, sauteed apples and peaches, red apples - the sheer essence of its personality grows more intense until you can get lost sniffing it, studying the understated interplay of fruit and minerals. On the palate, the way the joyous acidity complements the sweetness creates an impression of the Platonic ideal of fresh fruit, while its light touch hammers again the Teutonic claim to fame: no one else makes delicate beauties like this.
Rahsaan wrote:ChaimShraga wrote:Leitz, Rheingau, Rudesheimer Berg Roseneck, Riesling, Spatlese, 2004
While reserved at first - showing talc and slate, sauteed apples and peaches, red apples - the sheer essence of its personality grows more intense until you can get lost sniffing it, studying the understated interplay of fruit and minerals. On the palate, the way the joyous acidity complements the sweetness creates an impression of the Platonic ideal of fresh fruit, while its light touch hammers again the Teutonic claim to fame: no one else makes delicate beauties like this.
I had a 2004 Karthauserhof Spatlese last night. It was a loose mineral pleasure with some lip-smacking residual sugar, but not much more. Your 2004 sounds more intense and complex.
ChaimShraga wrote:Rahsaan wrote:ChaimShraga wrote:Leitz, Rheingau, Rudesheimer Berg Roseneck, Riesling, Spatlese, 2004
While reserved at first - showing talc and slate, sauteed apples and peaches, red apples - the sheer essence of its personality grows more intense until you can get lost sniffing it, studying the understated interplay of fruit and minerals. On the palate, the way the joyous acidity complements the sweetness creates an impression of the Platonic ideal of fresh fruit, while its light touch hammers again the Teutonic claim to fame: no one else makes delicate beauties like this.
I had a 2004 Karthauserhof Spatlese last night. It was a loose mineral pleasure with some lip-smacking residual sugar, but not much more. Your 2004 sounds more intense and complex.
Well, its charm was how the intensity was so ephemeral.
David M. Bueker wrote:Andrew Bair wrote:Two notes, and a ?:
2003 Salomon-Undhof Riesling Undhof Kögl Reserve
Somewhat floral nose. Full-bodied, ripe, broad, dry, well balanced, with good underlying acidity. Very mineral, with pineapple, pear, orange, lemon, and nut flavors. Shows some light notes of ground black pepper on the finish. Excellent, and still has a way to go.
1990 Salomon-Undhof Riesling Kremser Kögl Reserve
Opened about an hour before pouring. Nose of tropical fruits, lychees, and light petrol. Full, round, bone dry, nicely balanced and focused; creamy and rather baroque, with subtler acidity. Tastes of honey, golden fruits, pears, and minerals, with traces of baking spices and coffee. Nice length. Excellent mature dry Riesling – not a showstopper, but a great pairing with a meatier white fish.
Now, for my question(s?): Are Undhof Kögl and Kremser Kögl both names for the same site? Normally, I would not expect them to be, but I have not seen any recent Salomon wines labeled as being from Kremser Kögl. To add to my confusion, I then went to the Traditionsweingüter Österreichisch website (http://www.traditionsweingueter.com/new ... lagen.html), and found a Steiner Kögl among their listing of Erste Lagen for Kremstal. Of course, Salomon is based in Krems-Stein.
If someone could please help me get my vineyard identities straight, I would be very appreciative! Thank you.
Kogl is the site. Salomon has messed around with the wine naming conventions a few times. The 2006 is 2006 Erich Salomon-Undhof Riesling Reserve Kögl. There is a 1995 Auslese (!) that I have in the cellar labeled 1995 Erich Salomon-Undhof Riesling Auslese Kremser Kögl.
Salil wrote:2010 Immich-Batterieberg Riesling "CAI" Kabinett
$21 at Chambers, under screwcap. Opened with a bit of trepidation considering how painfully acidic a Peter Lauer "Senior" was recently. This one's not lacking in acidity either, but the components are in much better balance. There's bright grapefruit, lime and apple fruit here and with air a pretty floral scent emerges; racy and bright in the mouth with the acidity quite nicely balanced and it's very enjoyable to drink.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
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