Roy Hersh wrote:Dan G.,
Was the bar your speak of on the Porto side of the Douro or on the Vila Nova de Gaia side. It kind of sounds like VINOLOGIA to me, but there are several possibilities.
Baldias is produced by Jose M. Barros and although he's been making Port for nearly 30 years that I know of, this producer rarely has had any "wow wines or Ports." It is not in the USA and I've only heard about it reaching outside of Portugal in Sweden and Norway. That doesn't mean it can't be found elsewhere, just that I know of collectors who have enjoyed it in those two countries.
Roy Hersh wrote:Andrew,
The Roxo 20 year old Moscatel from JM de Fonseca has not been made in years. Eight years ago, they finally replaced it with a newer bottling, called "Alambre" which is also a 20 year old blend. However, having had them side-by-side, I do not find the Alambre of the same caliber. I still have two bottles of Roxo and really miss that stunning bottling. See if you can find some vintage version, usually the 1962 sells quite inexpensively.
BTW, do you drink Port w/ my friend Moses B. who lives in your area?
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Pamela DOC. Had to blink twice, name of my ex-wife!! Here is some info Joe..and others who might be reading about this DOC for first time.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_i ... 4782340696
David M. Bueker wrote:I have very little access to Purtugese wines otherthan some Port in my local shops, and when I ask about getting the wines the best response I get is a shrug. These are not chain wine/liquor stores either, but highly focused wine shops.
Joe Moryl wrote:For you guys in CT: have you ever visited the New Bedford or Providence area shops? I'd venture to guess there are some Portuguese wines to be had in those areas.
Roy Hersh wrote:We have a few guys from MA on my site's forum and I constantly read about their extraordinary selection of Portuguese table wines, while their Port selections are what i consider spartan. That dichotomy bothers them, because they are Port lovers first, yet they love to find bargains in DOC wines that often times don't ever make it past MA's borders. David, if you had to drive 2-3 hours once or a year to MA to buy a few cases of mixed Portuguese wines, is that such a hardship? Now I am sure you won't do that, but really it is not such a big deal.
Roy Hersh wrote:From prices I've seen at Marty's. and other places my friend mentions for purchasing his Douro wines in MA, it would more than pay for your tank of gas!
David M. Bueker wrote:Welcome Sarah, and thank you for an informative 1st post!
Your comments about what's happening on the ground in Portugal not aligning with what we see in the shops ring very true for me. I have very little access to Purtugese wines otherthan some Port in my local shops, and when I ask about getting the wines the best response I get is a shrug. These are not chain wine/liquor stores either, but highly focused wine shops. When there is something that looks potentially interesting on the shelf the folks in the shop know nothing about it. This isn't just an east coast phenomenon either. I visited a prominent west coast shop a couple of years ago, and was looking speciically for a dry red wine from Portugal. There was a display of 8 or 10 rather expensive wines, so I asked what they could tell me about them. The answer consisted of "well, they're from Portugal."
This situation makes it tough to venture into the genre.
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