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David Creighton
Wine guru
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Malbec (I know this is The Thing in Argentina)
- Cabernet Franc
- Petit Verdot
- Carmenère (I know this one is big in Chile...)
Do you believe that producers who sell these under the varietal name are looking for niche markets (something odd and rare)... or that there are also some very good wines out there?
A related question: do Meritage-type Bordeaux blends generally produce better wines than straight varietals in other countries, or is this is done more out of tradition, or for marketing purposes?
It seems to me the Australians pioneered blends of grape varieties that have nothing do do with each other in the Old World (Cabernet-Shiraz, etc.). Have you had any such blends that were very successful? Or do you find this deviant behavior?
AlexR wrote:
It seems to me the Australians pioneered blends of grape varieties that have nothing do do with each other in the Old World (Cabernet-Shiraz, etc.).
AlexR wrote:
It seems to me the Australians pioneered blends of grape varieties that have nothing do do with each other in the Old World (Cabernet-Shiraz, etc.).
AlexR wrote:What has me confused is that I thought it was illegal for French wine labels to mention the name of the grape variety on the main label unless it consisted of 100% of that variety (French law overriding European law).
Michael Pronay wrote:The only French AOC labels stating a grape variety that come to my mind are those from Alsace, Bourgogne Aligoté, and Sauvignon de St-Bris. Maybe there are more, "mais ils m'échappent pour l'instant".
Gary Barlettano
Pappone di Vino
1909
Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:50 pm
In a gallon jug far, far away ...
Michael Pronay wrote:The 100% requirement is true, but that doesn not mean one might not state two varieties. The regulations most certainly say that when you state two varieties, there cannot be a third one, and there cannot be a higher percentage of the variety mentioned in second place than the variety mentioned first.
Gary Barlettano wrote:Michael, are you aware of a nifty, handy dandy, more or less official French website somewhere where these rules are written down for us mere mortals to ponder?
Jay Labrador
J-Lab's in da house!
1335
Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:34 am
Manila, Philippines
Dave Erickson wrote:
Alex, there are some vignerons in Costieres de Nimes who would be very upset to learn that cabernet and syrah have nothing to do with each other. The label pictured is for a wine sold as Vin du Pays because it doesn't fit the Costieres de Nimes DOC rules...
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
AlexR wrote:
It seems to me the Australians pioneered blends of grape varieties that have nothing do do with each other in the Old World (Cabernet-Shiraz, etc.).
Have you had any such blends that were very successful? Or do you find this deviant behavior?
AlexR wrote:That's interesting Mark... because a label that's illegal for the French market should also be for export markets...
I'm wondering though if there's not some confusion between vins de pays and vins de table here.
Best regards,
Alex R.
Eric Ifune
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:51 pm
Las Vegas, NV and elsewhere
James Roscoe
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:43 pm
D.C. Metro Area - Maryland
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