The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

Wine probation support group starts here

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Salil

Rank

Franc de Pied

Posts

2653

Joined

Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm

Location

albany, ny

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Salil » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:33 pm

Bah. My very good intentions of not buying anything just ground to a halt. Aged Clos Windsbuhl at 30 bucks will do that.

Now to try and get back on the wagon and have a little more restraint (although maybe I'll keep thinking that it'll be a long time before I see any more ZH at such crazy prices to break my will).
no avatar
User

Jeff_Dudley

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

219

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:46 am

Location

SoCal

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Jeff_Dudley » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:39 pm

Salil,

Clos Windsbuhl at $30 (ea.) is an astoundingly good deal, not worth the restraint to at least try one, to see if the bottles are sound. If the condition is good, well, it gets more difficult doesn't it ? :wink:
"No one can possibly know what is about to happen: it is happening, each time, for the first time, for the only time."

James A. Baldwin
no avatar
User

Salil

Rank

Franc de Pied

Posts

2653

Joined

Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm

Location

albany, ny

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Salil » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:49 pm

Jeff - provenance wasn't a concern for me as these were in the Hart Davis Hart inventory, and I've had excellent experiences buying older bottles from them in the past - they're very good about giving warnings on fills, leakage, capsule/label conditions, etc (there were none on these bottles), and all the older wines from them that I've opened so far have been in great condition.
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

42509

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Jenise » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:37 pm

James Dietz wrote:Thanx for the recommendation for a place to stay, Jenise. You describe pretty much what I buy from them, except I do get their Zin too. The sryah and petite sirah are both good, but I don't buy much of either varietal from anyone.


If I'd had more space, I'd have bought the zin as well, but the three I did buy were for me the most exceptional. And I passed up the syrah and petite sirah for the same reasons you do. Competent wines, but not the grapes I love best.
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Bob Parsons Alberta

Rank

aka Doris

Posts

10773

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:09 pm

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:24 am

Well I am doing very well but I did have to buy a cheap bottle of Port for a balsamic port reduction!! Truth, honest mi`Lud.

Jenise has shown no restraint whatever.....If I'd had more space, I'd have bought the zin as well, but the three I did buy were for me the most exceptional. And I passed up the syrah and petite sirah for the same reasons you do. Competent wines, but not the grapes I love best.
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:22 am

Come on folks; this has become the wine enablement thread. Pick each other up.

I went to a Burgundy tasting last night and came home with zero, count 'em zero bottles.

Follow my lead!
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

JC (NC)

Rank

Lifelong Learner

Posts

6679

Joined

Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm

Location

Fayetteville, NC

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by JC (NC) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:28 am

Uh, couldn't make a trip to California to visit Santa Barbara County wineries and not buy anything. I showed more restraint than Jenise however--a dozen bottles in three days of tasting--three from Carr in Santa Barbara, three from Melville, three from Babcock, and one each from three other wineries.
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

42509

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Jenise » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:30 am

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Jenise has shown no restraint whatever.....If I'd had more space, I'd have bought the zin as well, but the three I did buy were for me the most exceptional. And I passed up the syrah and petite sirah for the same reasons you do. Competent wines, but not the grapes I love best.


You're so wrong! I can't believe you'd judge me so harshly! I had two travelling cases and could have brought home 24 bottles, but alas I brought only 17. That's restraint! Plus, you have to know what else I used the space for--rocks. :)
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Jeff_Dudley

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

219

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:46 am

Location

SoCal

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Jeff_Dudley » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:55 am

David,

Oops, guilty. It looked like there weren't as many "on probation" WLDG citizens lately :wink: , so I jumped in on the "buyer's confession and remorse" bandwagon. Sorry.

On a positive note for the original therapuetic intention of David's thread, I feel good having not purchased a more appropriate wine last week for our Italian dinner. Even though it meant killing a real baby, my only Macarello 98 Barolo, I made the right choice by pulling from cellar rather than from wallet. Thanks.
"No one can possibly know what is about to happen: it is happening, each time, for the first time, for the only time."

James A. Baldwin
no avatar
User

Salil

Rank

Franc de Pied

Posts

2653

Joined

Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm

Location

albany, ny

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Salil » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:06 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:I went to a Burgundy tasting last night and came home with zero, count 'em zero bottles.

Follow my lead!

I'm attempting to get back on the probation wagon by removing myself from most of the wine email lists I've joined (and removing the appropriate bookmarks from Firefox). Can't buy if I can't see the offers. :D
no avatar
User

Sam Platt

Rank

I am Sam, Sam I am

Posts

2330

Joined

Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm

Location

Indiana, USA

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Sam Platt » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:43 pm

I went to a Burgundy tasting last night and came home with zero, count 'em zero bottles.

Well check out Mr. "I didn't buy Burgundy" guy here! With the the economy in a shambles I've been "not buying Burgundy" every day for several months now. Let's see how well you do when faced with a 2001 JJ Prum W.S. Spatlese for $23! That may be the situation I find myself in next week in Southern Texas. The guy down there does not follow the market and keeps his prices the same from release. A man can only be so strong! :)
Sam

"The biggest problem most people have is that they think they shouldn't have any." - Tony Robbins
no avatar
User

Sam Platt

Rank

I am Sam, Sam I am

Posts

2330

Joined

Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm

Location

Indiana, USA

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Sam Platt » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:45 pm

Sam,
I'm available as your disabler, err, enabler!! I think there is a loophole for 2006 ESJ Bone Jolly Gamay (Red) for $12.98 before discount. Hell, you'd be a damn fool if you didn't buy it. Well, you may actually be a fool if you only bought one bottle. Hell, it even has a screwcap so Mr. Bueker can buy/drink it.

That's what I'm talkin' bout, Bill! Illness is in the eye of the beholder. Good QPR is always an excuse to go off the wagon.
Sam

"The biggest problem most people have is that they think they shouldn't have any." - Tony Robbins
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:38 pm

Sam Platt wrote:Well check out Mr. "I didn't buy Burgundy" guy here! With the the economy in a shambles I've been "not buying Burgundy" every day for several months now. Let's see how well you do when faced with a 2001 JJ Prum W.S. Spatlese for $23! That may be the situation I find myself in next week in Southern Texas. The guy down there does not follow the market and keeps his prices the same from release. A man can only be so strong! :)


Well since I have a cellar full of the stuff bought on release & for less than that I think I would do just fine.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Sam Platt

Rank

I am Sam, Sam I am

Posts

2330

Joined

Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm

Location

Indiana, USA

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Sam Platt » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:58 pm

Well since I have a cellar full of the stuff bought on release & for less than that I think I would do just fine.

Dammit! Somewhere in the world there exists a juice that would tempt you to the dark side of wine purchasing, David. We've yet to discover your weakness... I wonder... I wonder...
Sam

"The biggest problem most people have is that they think they shouldn't have any." - Tony Robbins
no avatar
User

Jeff_Dudley

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

219

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:46 am

Location

SoCal

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Jeff_Dudley » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:36 am

Sam,

I'm guessing David could be tempted, but based on his postings I've seen, would it have to be, ummm - Donnhoff ?

I'm slightly partial to the Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle, but I wonder if David could have passed on an excruciatingly good deal for some prime Oberhäuser Brücke. Kabinett, Spatlese and Auslese. 1998 - 2005. Many Gold Cap. But I wish I had thought to test this theory last week and offered him mine. I just traded three cases of O-B away over the weekend for two assorted boxes of 2007 Donnhoff N-H, yet to arrive. This is one route I've taken to stay safely off probation, in kind of a sneaky, low side compliance way. :lol:

Now I just gotta get rid of eight more cases of something, and I'm down to only one locker at The Wine Box. Yippeeee.
"No one can possibly know what is about to happen: it is happening, each time, for the first time, for the only time."

James A. Baldwin
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:53 am

Trades are not a violation of Wine Probation. I do a lot of that myself.

It was Donnhoff that caused me to fall of the wagon a week ago. What a shock eh...

I think there is going ot be some wife approved Champagne purchasing coming up as well. We're pretty low on champers & it's her favorite (though she won't admit that) wine.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Salil

Rank

Franc de Pied

Posts

2653

Joined

Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm

Location

albany, ny

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Salil » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:15 am

David M. Bueker wrote:Trades are not a violation of Wine Probation. I do a lot of that myself.

It was Donnhoff that caused me to fall of the wagon a week ago. What a shock eh...

Which one? 07 Brucke? :D
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:16 am

Nope - an assorted 6-pack of the 2007 Grosses Gewachs wines.

I had already ordered the 2007 Brucke in June when I placed my 2007 vintage DI order.
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Daniel Rogov

Rank

Resident Curmudgeon

Posts

0

Joined

Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 am

Location

Tel Aviv, Israel

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Daniel Rogov » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:31 am

I have followed this thread periodically since its inception and must now admit that I am "opposed" to its very principle.
Not that there is anything wrong with moderation, but I find myself in accord with St. Augustine's plea:

"Give me chastity and continence, but not yet, Lord, not yet."

Best (and yes, smiling)
Rogov
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:15 am

Continence? Yikes! :wink:
Decisions are made by those who show up
no avatar
User

Oswaldo Costa

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1902

Joined

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:30 am

Location

São Paulo, Brazil

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Oswaldo Costa » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:49 am

David M. Bueker wrote:Continence? Yikes! :wink:


Chastity you can deal with, but not continence, I see...
"I went on a rigorous diet that eliminated alcohol, fat and sugar. In two weeks, I lost 14 days." Tim Maia, Brazilian singer-songwriter.
no avatar
User

Oswaldo Costa

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1902

Joined

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:30 am

Location

São Paulo, Brazil

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Oswaldo Costa » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:59 am

This message board is part of the (my) problem. You all keep writing about this wonderful wine and that wonderful wine and curiosity is part of what drives us (me). I'm spending a week in New York, as I do every few weeks, and it's like being loose in a candy store. So many great things tempting me right and left, usually cheaper even than in their countries of origin. But, finally, after three weekly aborted stock market recoveries, the penny has dropped about the coming recession (i.e., it's not going to be confined to the financial world, but will strike everywhere) and I have entered "bunker" mode. Over the last five days, I have jettisoned every single opportunity, temptation, desire, inclination, to buy anything whatsoever. From now on, while the malaise lasts, I have decided to stop buying. And not only out of fiscal responsibility: when so many are losing their jobs and experiencing distress, to keep buying out of caprice would feel like fiddling while Rome burns. There are always people in bad shape, but things seem to have taken a quantum leap for the worse. I have enough good things in the cellar, but suddenly the wine world seems bleaker, diminished, and I feel less like reading the posts on this board because they will torture me with vicarious pleasure. Aaargh!
"I went on a rigorous diet that eliminated alcohol, fat and sugar. In two weeks, I lost 14 days." Tim Maia, Brazilian singer-songwriter.
no avatar
User

Charles Weiss

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

444

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:47 pm

Location

Boston

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by Charles Weiss » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:21 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Continence? Yikes! :wink:


Not the continence of which you're thinking, David.
I believe you have that already, unless you see a botle of Donnhoff!

I confess to having put myself in the way of temptation by going to a store tasting yesterday, over 200 wines, including things like Cristal, Dom Perignon, good baroli, etc. I restricted myself to tasting only about 100 (...pause for applause), and only 7 moderately priced bottles went home with me, most of which filled a niche that actually gets depleted (Barbera, these the Austri from San Ferolo). Ok, I really didn't need the bottle of 2004 Keller Spat #26, which I know would NOT have caused David to be incontinent in any sense of the word.

Charles
Charles Weiss
no avatar
User

David M. Bueker

Rank

Riesling Guru

Posts

34220

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Connecticut

Re: Wine probation support group starts here

by David M. Bueker » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:43 pm

I know Charles (hence the winking guy), but it was too hard to resist.

So I picked up the first half of my 2007 German direct import orders. Thankfully they were ordered back in June prior to the initiation of this thread & thus immune!
Decisions are made by those who show up
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], SemrushBot and 0 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign