It really is a good deal and worth stocking up on.Sam wrote:"Dr. L" has become our house Riesling.
But you'll probably pull a Rheingau from the early 80's!Doris wrote:As usual, you mention wines and I think it is time to pull something similar from the cellar
David M. Bueker wrote:The heritage of the Royal Rheingau Riesling may be good, but that's all their cast off grapes. It also totally obscures and recognizable terroir (at least based on my one taste), where with an inexpensive estate bottled QbA or kabinett (or trocken) you at least get what German Riesling is supposed to give: a clear window into the grape and the place.
Dave Erickson wrote:On the other hand, inexpensive QbA wines are usually bargains for a reason: They're not very good, no matter how much terroir they display.
Alan Uchrinscko wrote:Gysler = Yummy
Gysler = Cheap
Gysler = Yummy & Cheap
David wrote:The Dr. L is outclassed by wines like the Kesseler 'R' and Estate QbA in my opinion
Sam Platt wrote:David wrote:The Dr. L is outclassed by wines like the Kesseler 'R' and Estate QbA in my opinion
David, I'm afraid I can't agree on that one. I find the Kesseler wines to possess little of the subtlety that I enjoy in a Riesling. His style seems over done and somewhat harsh to me. Additionally, the August Kesseler Estate QbA runs $16.00 around here. Not worth a $6.00 premium over the Dr. L in my opinion.
Sam, this is where we diverge with stylistic preference, I think. I like the Dr. L specifically because it is plump and has more perceived (or actual) residual sugar than the Kesseler or the Messmer halbtrocken. I find it is much less subtle than the Kesseler Estate but I like it for what it is and that is a fatter qpr riesling that is refreshing. Dollar for dollar I'd go with Kesseler Estate (which is actually slightly cheaper than Dr. L around here) but Dr. L has it's place for me as well.I find the Kesseler wines to possess little of the subtlety that I enjoy in a Riesling.
Bill wrote:I find it is much less subtle than the Kesseler Estate but I like it for what it is and that is a fatter qpr riesling that is refreshing.
David wrote:As for the subtlety, that's your call. I will not dispute your palate preferences, but I find the Kesseler QbAs to be quite elegant
Bill wrote:I've got a new avatar for you, Sam.
Curly-Bill wrote:....nope, just chilled canned Del Monte pear juice.
David Bueker wrote:As much as I hate the Dr. L, I may actually have to try it just to see if I can call it pear juice.