This one is as blurry as can be, Hoke. There is interview with a WS columnist and clear directions to winespectator.com to download the guide.Hoke wrote:Jenise: I don't have the mag handy, but I believe if you check it out you'll probably notice (in suitably discreet fine print) that this is a paid-for insert---in short, an advertisement, probably executed by the WS, but not necessarily, and paid for by the mega-company.
Bill Buitenhuys wrote:This one is as blurry as can be, Hoke. There is interview with a WS columnist and clear directions to winespectator.com to download the guide. The back page states "Here you'll also find useful tools to compare and shop for wine, Like the WS Dealer Locator and the WS Auction Index"
but then goes on to say "One convenient source for many of teh wines recommended here (and hundreds of other premium bottles) is (fill in specific wine club here). It sure looks an ad for specifc wines (and wine club) with WS-approved plastered all over it.
Jenise wrote:I remember when Harvey Steiman used to hang out in our forum and vigorously defended his magazine against any and all suggestions that advertising dollars played any role in ratings and recommendations.
I'd love to hear how he'd defend this piece of crap.
Robin Garr wrote:Once The Speck belatedly stumbled onto the Web, though, I got the strong impression that he and other Speck writers were "strongly discouraged" from participating ... I've had the same impression from Matt Kramer, despite frequent E-mail invitations. Sad.
Bill Buitenhuys wrote:I'm all for the party at Jenise's, James. S'mores on the Beach. (Isn't that a Phillip Glass opera?)
James Roscoe wrote:You guys are getting all that rightous indignation up, but what about the bonfire idea? Maybe we should meet at Jenise's place. I hear she's got a pretty good cellar and a nice view of the ocean to boot. (Is it really worth the rant?)
Jenise wrote:James, worth the rant? Probably not. But it's fun to rag on them nonetheless..... But hey yeah re the bonfire, we do good bonfire here--mother nature washes up the firewood and no cops can come tell us to put it out. Y'all come! And bring fireworks!
as long as you know what you're doing.
We'll all be up next Tuesday. Make sure there is plenty of salmon on the grill and some good SB in the cooler. I'll have the marshmallows. What's everyone else bringing?
James Roscoe wrote:Let's not start the crab debate. I'm from Maryland!
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