Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

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Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:56 am

I have some good looking shrimp in the freezer and need a "merlot break". Still waiting for the `04 Pepiere to arrive up here but have a couple of other muscs to taste!
Anyone out there in the muscadet mode right now?

BTW I seem to have a serious white wine problem right now! Have just been out there buying too many and they seem to be piling up!! Probably have around 9 mixed cases of the stuff...Germany, Alsace, Oz Rieslings, Viogniers from all over the place, Pinot Gris, S French whites, the list goes on!!
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Redwinger » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:10 am

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:...BTW I seem to have a serious white wine problem right now! Have just been out there buying too many and they seem to be piling up!! Probably have around 9 mixed cases of the stuff...Germany, Alsace, Oz Rieslings, Viogniers from all over the place, Pinot Gris, S French whites, the list goes on!!


Bob,

That sounds like a good thing to me...no?

I recently had a 2004 Chereau Carre Muscadet that was quite nice. Perhaps not quite on the level of Pepiere, but quite quaffable. This bottle was a distributor sample so I don't have any pricing info.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Rahsaan » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:28 am

Which ones are you thinking of opening.

Had the 03 Bossard Granite yesterday, which was quite enjoyable, sappy, and even a bit of freshness..
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:29 am

Thanks Bill. is there a big difference in the `03 and `04 vintage? Think the `03s are not as dry as they are supposed to be due to the warmer conditions.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Redwinger » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:33 am

Bob,
I'm far from an expert on Muscadet, but based upon my experience. the 04's have delivered far more enjoyment than the '03s. I guess it's a vintage thing. :D
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby David Creighton » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:08 am

we are getting into the 05's here in michigan. so far seems superior to '04 and certainly to '03.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:11 pm

Thanks David, in your opinion how untypical were the `03s?!!
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby James Roscoe » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:32 pm

Bob,
This is a problem? Would that all our problems were of this type! If you don't know what to do with them I can give you an address in Maryland to send a case or to off as olive oil of course.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Otto » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:36 am

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Thanks David, in your opinion how untypical were the `03s?!!


Not David but hope you don't mind if I jump in. 03, like elsewhere, lacked acidity. And acidity is what Muscadet (and all wines, actually and naturally) is about.

And good for you for drinking my darling Muscadet :) I've been having problems getting M here, so I've only drunk a case during the past ½ year. I would usually go through more.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby David Creighton » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:10 pm

i probably wouldn't have been able to identify most of them blind. heavy without being really flavorful. what actually puzzles me is how they managed to stay under the 12.5% alcohol maximum allowed by the appellation! did they get a special dispensation from the authorities to go over? meleoration?
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:55 am

Otto Nieminen wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Thanks David, in your opinion how untypical were the `03s?!!


Not David but hope you don't mind if I jump in. 03, like elsewhere, lacked acidity. And acidity is what Muscadet (and all wines, actually and naturally) is about.

And good for you for drinking my darling Muscadet :) I've been having problems getting M here, so I've only drunk a case during the past ½ year. I would usually go through more.


Here is a new one just on the shelves......`03 Chateau de Chasseloir, Bernard Chereau.
Local wine store is raving about this one, still no sign of the Pepiere although I hear the ship bringing it over is going faster.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Mark Lipton » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:19 am

creightond wrote:i probably wouldn't have been able to identify most of them blind. heavy without being really flavorful. what actually puzzles me is how they managed to stay under the 12.5% alcohol maximum allowed by the appellation! did they get a special dispensation from the authorities to go over? meleoration?


Garden hose???

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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:14 am

The `03 Ch de Chasseloir, Chereau Carre..cuvee des ceps centenaire. Nice shrimp to go with it!! Hows that Rahsaan, replying to your question of the other day!!
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Rahsaan » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:27 am

he `03 Ch de Chasseloir, Chereau Carre..cuvee des ceps centenaire. Nice shrimp to go with it!! Hows that Rahsaan, replying to your question of the other day!!


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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:55 am

Rahsaan, will post some notes when I can find my scribblings on the `03 Pepiere. However I found it quite gluggable after a tough day in the Grills. Bit ripe and had some nice melon and apple. The finish was very good if a tad sweet. Some grass and herbyness reminded me of a SB. I will be looking out for the `04 from these guys. Probably on the same slow tug boat as the Pepiere.
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Re: Thinking of opening a Muscadet !!

Postby SFJoe » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:42 pm

The '03s are huge outliers in Muscadet, certainly unlike anything that I have tried going back into the '60s. Some people made good wine, but the heat made for weirdly fat wines, some with roasted/cooked mineral flavors that are not my favorite.
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