David Raccah wrote:So Happy Thanksgiving, and to placate all I hope - enjoy the food of your choice - as long as it is not human!
The peasants-have-no-bread story was in common currency at least since the 1760s as an illustration of the decadence of the aristocracy. The political philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau mentions it in his Confessions in connection with an incident that occurred in 1740. (He stole wine while working as a tutor in Lyons and then had problems trying to scrounge up something to eat along with it.) He concludes thusly: "Finally I remembered the way out suggested by a great princess when told that the peasants had no bread: 'Well, let them eat cake.'"
Now, J.-J. may have been embroidering this yarn with a line he had really heard many years later. But even so, at the time he was writing--early 1766--Marie Antoinette was only ten years old and still four years away from her marriage to the future Louis XVI.
Daniel Rogov wrote:Avi, Hi....
My problem in this case is turning to tofu not as tofu but as a look-alike/passer-for turkey. I believe that a creative cook can do wonders with fruits, vegetables, eggs and dairy products. I also believe in the old adage that in my book prohibits look-alikes: "If it is like an egg it is not as good as an egg".
JC (NC) wrote:"where the Hebrew word הודו (hodu) means both "thanks" and "turkey!"
Did they have turkeys in the Middle East?
Hodu is the Biblical word for India, and therefore tarnegol hodu means "Indian chicken". This is the name for the bird in many European languages - Russian indiuk, Polish indyk, French dinde and Yiddish indik. Even in Turkey they call the bird hindi.
Daniel Rogov wrote:I too am a devout carnivore but I wonder how I would feel if some group of creatures superior to we humans were to perceive us as their feast of choice for a given holiday. Were I a leader of the humans,I doubt very much that I would advise us to go gentle into that good night that awaits at the butcher's blade. Would not a turkey giving the advice that some of you would have him offer be forever perceived as the Benedict Arnold of all turkeys?
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