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Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:55 am
by Bob Ross
Jancis has asked for help in beefing up her list of retailers in the US she can recommend. Here's what she has now:

Abarbanel Wine Company
100 Cedarhurst Avenue
Cedarhurst, NY 11516
tel +1 516 374 2240, fax +1 516 374 2565
lisa@kosher-wine.com
http://www.kosher-wine.com

American International Distribution Group (AIDC)
Contact: Marilyn McConnel
tel +1 (800) 678-2432
MMcConnell@aidcvt.com
http://www.aidcvt.com

Adventures in Wine
Contact: Laetitia Garcin
440 Talbert Street
Daly City, CA 94014
tel +1 415 467 0130, fax +1 415 467 0133
merrick@adventuresinwine.com
http://www.adventuresinwine.com


Calvert Woodley Wines & Spirits
4339 Connecticut Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20008
tel +1 202-966-4400
fax +1 202-537-5086
wine@calvertwoodley.com
http://www.calvertwoodley.com

Robert Chadderdon Selections
30 Rockefeller Plaza, Suite 4538
New York, NY 10112
tel +1 212 757 8185, fax +1 212 262 7039

Flagstone Winery USA Inc
Contact: Fiona Jack
95 Morton Street
New York, NY 10014
tel +1 917 496 7700, fax +1 212 905 7701
admin@fionajack.com
http://www.flagstonewines.com

Frederick Wildman & sons Ltd
307 E 53rd Street
New York, NY 10022
tel +1 (212) 355 0700

Italian Wine Merchants
108 East 16th Street (between Park Avenue South & Irving Place)
New York, NY 10003
tel +1 212.473.2323
fax +1 212.473.1952

http://www.italianwinemerchant.com


Potomac Selections
8648 Old Ardmore Road
Landover, Maryland 2078

Rosenthal Wine Merchant
1219 Route 83 Shekomeko
New York, NY 12567
tel +1 800 910 1990, fax +1 518 398 5974
info@madrose.com
http://www.madrose.com


David Schildknecht/Vintner Select
6215 Hi Tek Court
Mason, OH 45040
tel +1 (513) 229 3630, fax +1 (513) 229 3633

Shopper's Vineyard
875 Bloomfield Avenue
Clifton,
NJ 07012
tel +1 973-916-0707
fax + 1 973-778-9777
shoppersvineyard@seointel.com
http://www.shoppersvineyard.com


Subterraneum
2240 Filbert St, Suite J
Oakland, CA
tel +1 (510) 451 3939, fax +1 510 763 1697, toll free (888) BRRRRRR joe@subterraneum.com


Wally's Wine & Spirits
2107 Westwood Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90025
tel +1 310 475-0606
fax +1 310 474-1450
customerservice@wallywine.com
http://www.wallywine.com

WineExchange.com
http://www.wineexchange.com

The Wine Rack Shop
335 E. Lancaster Avenue
Downingtown, PA 19335
tel +1 (610) 322 3760
http://www.winerackshop.com


Zachys
16 East Parkway
Scarsdale, NY 10583
tel +1 866 922-4971
CustomerService@zachys.com
http://www.zachys.com

Any ideas to help out one of the icons of wine research? (Incidentally, may help us all as well.)

Post suggestions here and I'll put them into her form.

Regards and thanks, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:33 pm
by Ed Draves
Bob,
Isn't there a retailer list on the old site or perhaps somewhere on the Wine Lovers Page. Anyway, I'll send you a PM with my store's info in case we qualify.
Ed

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:37 pm
by Mike Filigenzi
Corti Brothers
5810 Folsom Boulevard
Sacramento, CA 95819
(916)736-3800

http://www.cortibros.biz/


Darrell Corti's domain.


Mike

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:27 pm
by Dale Williams
Bob,
This is supposed to be a list of retailers? Because obviously most of that list is wholesalers/importers. These are the wine shops I keep bookmarked (I also have Winex and Zachys, of course)

Chambers Street Wines, New York, NY
http://chambersstwines.com/

Premier Cru, Emeryville, CA
http://premiercru.net

Grapes The Wine Company, Rye NY
http://www.grapesthewineco.com/

MacArthurs, Washington DC
http://www.bassins.com/

Astor Wines , New York, NY
http://astoruncorked.com/

Rochambeau Wines, Dobbs Ferry, NY
http://www.rochambeauwines.com

Hart Davis Hart, Chicago, Il
http://www.hdhwine.com/

Sherry-Lehmann, New York, NY
http://www.sherry-lehmann.com

I'd also recommend Wine Expo in Santa Monica, Sam's in Chicago, Garagiste, Benchmark, Garys, Wine Library.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:29 pm
by Dale Williams
Oh, and Woodland Hills & PJs.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:55 pm
by Manuel Camblor
If I may, I will add my favorite neighborhood joint, which is on 57th street between Lexington and 3rd Avs., right here in delightful Manhattan: Crush Wine Company. http://www.crushwineco.com.

Apart from that, what Dale said. PJ's has excellent prices and a broad (if questionable) selection of Spanish and Itaian wines. I buy Sherry from them.

Chambers, of course, rocks. The new Astor is shaping up very nicely and it counts Greg del Piaz among its staff, which is a good thing. No, make that a pretty damn good thing with a cherry on top.

Garnet at 68th and Lexington has gone down in terms of selection, but one can still find the odd gem at a great price there. Columbus Circle Liquors has some interesting stuff, too. And for the hardy of heart, there's always Acker...

I was weirded out by all the importers and distributors on Mrs. Robinson's list. It needs annotation, I think.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:05 pm
by James Dietz

Premier Group - Buffalo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:13 pm
by Howie Hart
Premier has 3 excellent stores in the Buffalo area. In addition to a large selection of imports they feature many wines from the Niagara Peninsula and the Finger Lakes. Ed Draves works at one of their stores.

http://www.premiergroup.net/

Re: Premier Group - Buffalo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:26 pm
by Ed Draves
Thanks Howie, I appreciate the mention.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:02 pm
by Jenise
James Dietz wrote:K&L ...http://www.klwines.com


I'd add Hi Times to that list, wouldn't you Jim? I know very few wine stores it's equal.

Ditto the L. A. Wine House on Cotner. They are two of the best in Southern California, period.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:03 pm
by James Dietz
Indeed I would..

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:35 pm
by Bob Ross
Thanks, Mike. New to me. Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:41 pm
by Bob Ross
Many many thanks Dale -- great list. Jancis is way off track, I agree.

Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:54 pm
by JC (NC)
We've already had mentions for Macarthur's in DC (also known as Bassin's) and for K & L on the west coast. I will add Carolina Wine Company in Raleigh, NC
http://carolinawine.biz/index.asp?CartId={5B43A5E9-4CDEVERESTD-4760-90C1-A3BB852D2240}

and Village Corner in Ann Arbor, MI:

http://www.villagecorner.com/

I've also heard good things about the following but haven't been to them yet:

http://b-21.com/default.asp in Tarpon Springs, FL

and Wine Expo
2933 Santa Monica Blvd.
Santa Monica CA 90404
(310)828-4428
About Us...
Specialty Italian Wine and French Champagne

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:58 pm
by James Dietz
the address listed in the original post for Wine Exchange is soooo wrong..

it should be http://www.winex.com

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:22 pm
by Bob Ross
Thanks for the two after thoughts, Dale. Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:49 pm
by Bob Ross
Many thanks, Manuel. Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:55 pm
by Bob Ross
Thanks, James. Regards, Bob

Re: Premier Group - Buffalo

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:01 pm
by Bob Ross
Many thanks, Howie. Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:09 pm
by Bob Ross
Thanks, Jenise. Regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:28 pm
by Bob Ross
Thanks JC, regards, Bob

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:45 am
by Thomas
Bob,

I might add to the list, but what's the criteria? Personal favorites isn't really much of a criteria.

Incidentally, unless they have changed their status, Frederick Wildman is an Importer/Distributor, not a retailer. Nor is Chadderton and Rosenthal. Something is wrong either with her list, her understanding of the U.S. distributor/retailer system, or her request.

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:55 am
by Manuel Camblor
Thomas wrote:Bob,

I might add to the list, but what's the criteria? Personal favorites isn't really much of a criteria.

Incidentally, unless they have changed their status, Frederick Wildman is an Importer/Distributor, not a retailer. Nor is Chadderton and Rosenthal. Something is wrong either with her list, her understanding of the U.S. distributor/retailer system, or her request.


You are right about Wildman and Chadderdon, Thomas, but not about Rosenthal. Rosenthal has a shop on 84th Street, on the Upper East Side, where they sell wines from their import protfolio at retail to average punters like you and me. They have in-store tastings on Saturdays and stuff, too.

Rosenthal Wine Merchant
318 E 84TH St
New York, NY 10028-4422
(212) 249-6650

Re: Jancis Robinson's request for help on excellent wine retailers.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:40 am
by Thomas
Thanks Manuel,

I did know it, but had a lapse in memory--all too common event these days.

I suppose Rosenthal doesn't do warehousing, 'cause in NY you can't hold a distribution as well as a retailing license.

Incidentally, I admire Rosenthal for the dedication behind the selection.

Having said that, I'd still love to know the criteria for this wine list, and I suppose I ain't gonna get it! If it's just a directory, then all words like "good" should be excised from its introduction and explanation, and the answer can be had by contacting each state's Liquor Crime, er, Control Authority.

If it's a "best of" (a concept I keenly abhor) thenan explanation of what the retailers are "best of" at needs to accompany it, to which I am sure a fair percentage of wine buyers will agree as well as disagree, which makes such lists about as meaningful as a wine rating.