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CT is a very handy tool.

Amen, brother. Although when I do these sorts, CT reminds me how much I've spent on wine. Like making sausage and law, some things are nice to remain ignorant about.

Why is Connecticut such a handy tool? Is Stanley Works still based there?
Thanks,
Bill

Randy Buckner wrote:You've been listening to Verne too much, Carl. Tobin James rides again....

Actually we have about twice as much laid down as in rotation right now, as rotation still has not caught up after our move last year. When it is up to speed, the other regions particularly Spain, Italy, Southern France, and the Southern Hemisphere will catch up to CA.

And, you are correct. Most of what is laid down is TJ.

I don't use Cellar Tracker, but according to my trusty spreadsheet:

France -- 67%

Loire -- 31%
Burgundy -- 9%
Bordeaux -- 8%
Rhone -- 8%
Beaujolais -- 7%
Languedoc -- 2%
Other -- 2%

Italy -- 12%

Piedmont -- 7%
Other -- 3%
Tuscany -- 2%

USA -- 10%

Washington 6%
Oregon -- 2%
California -- 2%

Spain -- 6%

Portugal -- 3%

Greece -- 1%

Austria -- 1%

Once again, from Cellar Tracker:
France (51.24%, avg. 2001.2)
USA (12.37%, avg. 1999.6)
Italy (11.31%, avg. 1998.6)
Germany (10.95%, avg. 1995.3)
Spain (3.18%, avg. 1999.4)
Slovenia (2.12%, avg. 2001.8)
South Africa (1.77%, avg. 2001.2)
Australia (1.77%, avg. 2000.2)
New Zealand (1.06%, avg. 2003.3)
Portugal (0.71%, avg. 2001.0)
Canada (0.35%, avg. 2004.0)

Obviously I like French wine! I need to get more Italian wine in the cellar though.

The French breakdown:
Rhône (16.25%, avg. 2000.5)
Burgundy (14.84%, avg. 2001.4)
Bordeaux (6.01%, avg. 2000.3)
Alsace (3.53%, avg. 2001.1)
Southwest France (3.53%, avg. 2001.8)
Loire Valley (2.83%, avg. 2003.1)
Provence (1.77%, avg. 2003.2)
Languedoc Roussillon (1.41%, avg. 2004.0)
France (0.71%, avg. 2000.0)

Dave

USA 33.54%

California 28.66%

Cabernet Sauvignon 14.02%,

Zinfandel 7.32%

Chardonnay 1.22%

Zinfandel Blend 0.61%

Sauvignon Blanc 0.61%

Syrah 0.61%

Syrah Blend 0.61%

Red Bordeaux Blend 0.61%

Roussanne 0.61%

Sangiovese Blend 0.61%

Merlot 0.61%

Pinot Noir 0.61%

Red Blend 0.61%

Washington 3.66%

Merlot 3.66%

Oregon 1.22%

Pinot Noir 1.22%

France 18.90%

Bordeaux 9.76%

Red Bordeaux Blend 9.15%

Sémillon-Sauvignon Blanc Blend 0.61%

Rhône 3.05%

Red Rhone Blend 1.83%

Syrah 1.22%

Burgundy 2.44%,

Chardonnay 1.22%

Pinot Noir 1.22%

Loire Valley 1.22%

Chenin Blanc 0.61%

Sauvignon Blanc 0.61%

Alsace 0.61%

White Blend 0.61%

Champagne 0.61%

Champagne Blend 0.61%

Languedoc Roussillon 0.61%

Mauzac Blend 0.61%

Provence 0.61%

Red Blend 61%

Argentina 15.24%

Mendoza 15.24%

Malbec 10.37%

Cabernet Sauvignon 2.44%

Red Blend 1.22%

Torrontés 0.61%

Bonarda 0.61%

Australia 80%

South Australia 12.20%

Red Blend 7.32%

Shiraz 3.66%

Cabernet Sauvignon 0.61%

Cabernet-Shiraz Blend 0.61%

South Eastern 0.61%

Cabernet Sauvignon 0.61%

Chile 5.49%

Central Valley 5.49%

Carmenère 3.66%

Syrah 0.61%

Cabernet Sauvignon 0.61%

Cabernet-Merlot 0.61%

Italy 4.88%

Veneto 1.83%

Corvina Blend 1.22%

Pinot Grigio 0.61%

Abruzzi 1.22%

Montepulciano 1.22%

Tuscany 1.22%

Cabernet Sauvignon 1.22%

Trentino-Alto Adige 0.61%

Pinot Grigio 0.61%

Portugal 4.27%

Douro 4.27%

Port Blend 4.27%

Spain 3.05%

Catalunya 2.44%

Macabeo-Xarel-lo-Parellada 2.44%

La Rioja 0.61%

Tempranillo 0.61%

Germany 1.83%

Rheingau 1.22%

Johannisberg Riesling 1.22%

Mosel Saar Ruwer 0.61%

Riesling 0.61%

D Honig wrote:
USA 33.54%
France 18.90%
Argentina 15.24%
Australia 80%
Chile 5.49%
Italy 4.88%
Portugal 4.27%
Spain 3.05%
Germany 1.83%

My kind of math!

make that 12.8%

A quick glance at my cellar would indicate nothing unusual, a distribution somewhat like Randy's, with possibly one possible small exception, maybe a little more Champagne than Randy has; and two big ones, considerably more Spanish and much, much more Italian. Randy, what do you have against Spain (0.57%) and Italy (0.29%)?

Looks like:

France 34%
USA 19%
Germany 11%
Italy 10%
Australia 8%
N.Z. 7%
Portugal 4%
Spain 3%
Misc 3%

Randy, what do you have against Spain (0.57%) and Italy (0.29%)?

Underwhelmed for the most part.

I hadn't broken my cellar down in many years but this is how it comes out rounded off to approx. #'s.
Alsatian 3%
Bordeaux 7%
Burgs Red 6%
Burgs White 9%
Ca & Wash cab 12%
Cardonnay Ca & Oregon 1%
Champagne 1%
Dessert Wines mixed 4%
Sauvignon Blanc Ca, New Zealand, Loire 3%
German 4%
Italian 17% Mostly Piedmont & Tuscany
Merlot CA & Washington1%
Austrian 6%
Spanish 1%
Miscellaneous 9% Loire, Australian, odd CA's etc.
Port 2%
Rhone N & South 12%
Sauternes ) I keep them separate from other dessert 2%
I think I'll put a few more bottles of Champagne in the cellar.

Less than 1% of my wine is from Liechtenstein.

From CT

Oz 28.57%
France 22.22%
Italy 11.43%
Spain 8.89%
Portugal 7.3%
US 6.98%
Hungary 5.71%
Germany 4.13%
Austria 3.49%
Chile .95%
So. Africa .32%

Oz wines are the most availabe and relatively cheap here compared to others which is why I have so many. Except for one bottle, all my Portuguese are Port and Madeira. Hungary is all Tokaji. Austria is all Kracher TBA except for one bottle.

I generally don't buy wine to fill gaps in my cellar. I usually buy whatever is on sale.

Like this. Actually I am surprised that US is that high since it only includes two producers, Edmunds St. John and Ridge.

Austria 2%
France 68%
Germany 9%
Italy 1%
US 21%

It would be interesting to tabulate these responses to see what an "average" WLDG member has in their cellars.

France 50% (Bx 25%, N Rhone 11%)
German Riesling 34%
Musar 7%
Hungary and Portugal each 3%
Australia and USA and Beer altogether 3%

A weird stash indeed. I have little Loire, no Nebbiolo or Pinot Noir, too little Riesling (and almost all of it from Germany) and percentagewise more Bordeaux than I would have thought (yet I'm pretty happy with my unspoofulated selection of Bx). This reflects what is available to me much more than what I would like it to be.

Here's my list. I've decided to include both my purchases since starting to use cellartracker (241 bottles) as well as my current stock (82 bottles).

Purchases Current Stock

19.09% 17.07% Italy
19.09% 14.63% USA
15.35% 19.51% France
8.30% 12.20% Spain
7.88% 10.98% Germany
4.98% 6.10% Australia
4.15% 3.66% Austria
3.73% 2.44% Argentina
2.90% 3.66% Hungary
2.49% 2.44% Portugal
2.49% ------- South Africa
2.49% ------- Greece
2.07% 2.44% Chile
1.24% 2.44% New Zealand
0.83% ------- Canada
0.83% ------- Lebanon
0.41% 1.22% Cyprus
0.41% 1.22% Japan
0.41% ------- Turkey
0.41% ------- Georgia
0.41% ------- Ukraine

I have eclectic tastes (especially considering that the 82 bottles on hand fall into 50 different varietal categories on cellartracker).

I do want to focus a bit more on the Southern Hemisphere. Stores haven't been offering as many discounts on these lately. I'll have to stock up next time I have a "15% off anything" deal.

I'm not worthy of this Eurocentric board.

I have an awful lot of California wine that will take a decade to drink, but that is "evolving"

Chile/Arg 4%
Australia 3%
Germany 1%
France 15%
Italy 15%
USA 61%
Portugal 0%
Spain 1%

Brian K Miller wrote:I
Portugal 0%

Nice, which producers.

0% ... Nice, which producers.

_____ & _____ ya danged hillbilly. I find them lacking a little body myself....

Smart ass

It's a rounding thing. I pasted this from an Excell Spreadsheet without adjusting the number of decimal places.

I have one, count it, one Portugese bottle.

1999 Quinta Dos Roques Reserva

I want to buy more.

Brian, you mention Excel. The only thing I use that for is birding and butterfly studies!!! I keep a cellar book (manual) but for too much work sorting all the countries out. LOL. However I do have 8 cases of mixed whites for starters!!

What I use is Bottlecount, which doesn't have any real analysis capacities like Cellar Tracker. I should probably switch. So, the Excel was basically hand-entered data from Bottle Count and a little bit of spreadsheet arithmetic.