Re: cuvee and meritage?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:14 pm
"Do you mean "cannot be used to label any wine made in the EU and sold in the US"? The term Claret is certainly used on Bordeaux bottles over here."
If I understand the regs correctly, Steve, any wine made in France could be labeled "Claret" and sold in the US. The US/EU deal doesn't seem to restrict "Claret" to Bordeaux.
I hadn't seen any French Bordeaux wine labels carrying the name "Claret". After reading your reply, I realized I could easily review the UK wine market with the help of Wine Searcher Pro and I spent a very pleasant hour doing so.
I was surprised to see how many wines were labeled both Bordeaux and Claret and, frankly, at the variety of price points. I can understand why there might be 100 different wines carrying both names at price points of 2.00 to 15.00 pounds, or so, but was really startled to see that wines in the upper levels -- for example Ch Petrus Claret, 1990 at 20,000 pounds the case -- used only Claret in the merchants description.
Several of the books I have read written by British travelers to the wine regions of Europe wrote that they were startled to learn that Claret wasn't a wine region, but that Claret came from Bordeaux. They were also surprised to learn that as one put it -- "not one Frenchman in a hundred knows what Claret is."
I don't know whether the French are any more knowledgeable today, but British wine merchants certainly are using the Claret label even today.
Thanks for pointing that out -- you helped give me a patina of knowledge about another gap in my understanding of our respective cultures.
I thought you might be interested in some of the many wines from the US wines named "Claret" that could lawfully be sold in the EU under the EU/US trade deal. I don't think many would be exported, and that may have been part of the EU negotiators thinking when they allowed the grandfather clause.
N.V. Abacela Estate Claret Oregon.
2004 Arietta Claret California.
N.V. Aramenta Cellars Tillie Claret Oregon/Washington.
2003 A to Z Wineworks Claret Oregon.
N.V. Austin Hope Westside Red Claret _____.
N.V. Baldwin Vineyards Monticello Claret New York.
N.V. Barboursville Vineyards Claret Virginia.
2002 Basel Cellars Claret Washington.
2004 Becker Vineyards Claret Texas.
2000 Behrens & Hitchcock Claret California.
2003 Bell Wine Cellars Claret California.
2001 Biltmore Estate Claret North Carolina.
2001 Bremer Family Claret California.
2001 Buoncristiani OPC Claret California.
2004 Cliff Lede Claret California.
2004 Clos Pegase Pegase Circle Reserve Claret California.
1999 Cooper Garrod RV's Fine Claret California.
2002 DeBeque Canyon Winery Claret Colorado.
2002 Dehlinger Claret California.
N.V. Delaney Vineyard Claret Texas.
2004 Donati Family Vineyard Claret Paicines California.
N.V. D'Vine Wine of McKinney Claret Texas.
N.V. Edmonds Winery Slide Ridge Claret Washington.
1999 Elliston Captain's Claret California.
2004 First Colony Winery Monticello Claret Virginia.
2002 Francis Coppola / Niebaum-Coppola Black Label Claret California.
2003 Guenoc Victorian Claret California.
N.V. Gundlach Bundschu Bearitage Claret California.
2001 Harrison Claret California.
2001 Imagery Estate Winery Claret Rancho Salina Vineyard California.
N.V. Ingleside Plantation Vineyards Chesapeake Claret Virginia.
2002 Kamen Estate Claret California.
2005 Les Bourgeois Vineyards Claret Missouri.
2003 Matthews Cellars Claret.
2004 Mietz Cellars Claret California.
2000 Moore Cellars Cloudburst Claret California.
2004 Mount Pleasant Claret Blend Missouri.
2002 Murphy-Goode Wild Card Claret California.
2003 Newton Claret California.
2005 Nissley Vinyards Pensylvannia.
N.V. Nonini Winery Claret California.
N.V. Olathe Winery Claret _________.
2005 Oakencroft Jefferson Claret Virginia.
2002 Pride Mountain Reserve Claret California.
2003 Ramey Claret California.
2005 Rappahannock Cellars Claret Virginia.
NV Rashi Vineyards Claret California.
2004 Robert Foley Claret California.
2004 Robert Karl Cellars Claret Washington.
1996 Robert Sinskey Vineyards Claret California.
2003 Roxy Ann Winery Claret Oregon.
2003 Roudon Smith Claret California.
2001 S. Anderson Claret California.
N.V. Sierra Oaks Estate Claret ____________.
1941 Simi Claret California.
N.V. Spicewood Vineyards Claret Texas.
2002 St. Francis Claret California.
2004 Steltzner Vineyards Claret California.
1998 Stonehouse Vintner's Reserve Claret California.
N.V. Sunstone Winery Claret _________.
2005 The Winery at La Grange Claret Virginia.
NV Tomasello Claret New Jersey.
2003 Tyrus Evan Claret Washington.
2004 Veritas Vineyard Claret Veritas Virginia.
2002 Vierra Vineyards Claret Washington.
2001 White Rock Claret California.
N.V. Woodland Trail Winer Lakewood Claret Wisconsin.
Regards, Bob
If I understand the regs correctly, Steve, any wine made in France could be labeled "Claret" and sold in the US. The US/EU deal doesn't seem to restrict "Claret" to Bordeaux.
I hadn't seen any French Bordeaux wine labels carrying the name "Claret". After reading your reply, I realized I could easily review the UK wine market with the help of Wine Searcher Pro and I spent a very pleasant hour doing so.
I was surprised to see how many wines were labeled both Bordeaux and Claret and, frankly, at the variety of price points. I can understand why there might be 100 different wines carrying both names at price points of 2.00 to 15.00 pounds, or so, but was really startled to see that wines in the upper levels -- for example Ch Petrus Claret, 1990 at 20,000 pounds the case -- used only Claret in the merchants description.
Several of the books I have read written by British travelers to the wine regions of Europe wrote that they were startled to learn that Claret wasn't a wine region, but that Claret came from Bordeaux. They were also surprised to learn that as one put it -- "not one Frenchman in a hundred knows what Claret is."
I don't know whether the French are any more knowledgeable today, but British wine merchants certainly are using the Claret label even today.
Thanks for pointing that out -- you helped give me a patina of knowledge about another gap in my understanding of our respective cultures.
I thought you might be interested in some of the many wines from the US wines named "Claret" that could lawfully be sold in the EU under the EU/US trade deal. I don't think many would be exported, and that may have been part of the EU negotiators thinking when they allowed the grandfather clause.
N.V. Abacela Estate Claret Oregon.
2004 Arietta Claret California.
N.V. Aramenta Cellars Tillie Claret Oregon/Washington.
2003 A to Z Wineworks Claret Oregon.
N.V. Austin Hope Westside Red Claret _____.
N.V. Baldwin Vineyards Monticello Claret New York.
N.V. Barboursville Vineyards Claret Virginia.
2002 Basel Cellars Claret Washington.
2004 Becker Vineyards Claret Texas.
2000 Behrens & Hitchcock Claret California.
2003 Bell Wine Cellars Claret California.
2001 Biltmore Estate Claret North Carolina.
2001 Bremer Family Claret California.
2001 Buoncristiani OPC Claret California.
2004 Cliff Lede Claret California.
2004 Clos Pegase Pegase Circle Reserve Claret California.
1999 Cooper Garrod RV's Fine Claret California.
2002 DeBeque Canyon Winery Claret Colorado.
2002 Dehlinger Claret California.
N.V. Delaney Vineyard Claret Texas.
2004 Donati Family Vineyard Claret Paicines California.
N.V. D'Vine Wine of McKinney Claret Texas.
N.V. Edmonds Winery Slide Ridge Claret Washington.
1999 Elliston Captain's Claret California.
2004 First Colony Winery Monticello Claret Virginia.
2002 Francis Coppola / Niebaum-Coppola Black Label Claret California.
2003 Guenoc Victorian Claret California.
N.V. Gundlach Bundschu Bearitage Claret California.
2001 Harrison Claret California.
2001 Imagery Estate Winery Claret Rancho Salina Vineyard California.
N.V. Ingleside Plantation Vineyards Chesapeake Claret Virginia.
2002 Kamen Estate Claret California.
2005 Les Bourgeois Vineyards Claret Missouri.
2003 Matthews Cellars Claret.
2004 Mietz Cellars Claret California.
2000 Moore Cellars Cloudburst Claret California.
2004 Mount Pleasant Claret Blend Missouri.
2002 Murphy-Goode Wild Card Claret California.
2003 Newton Claret California.
2005 Nissley Vinyards Pensylvannia.
N.V. Nonini Winery Claret California.
N.V. Olathe Winery Claret _________.
2005 Oakencroft Jefferson Claret Virginia.
2002 Pride Mountain Reserve Claret California.
2003 Ramey Claret California.
2005 Rappahannock Cellars Claret Virginia.
NV Rashi Vineyards Claret California.
2004 Robert Foley Claret California.
2004 Robert Karl Cellars Claret Washington.
1996 Robert Sinskey Vineyards Claret California.
2003 Roxy Ann Winery Claret Oregon.
2003 Roudon Smith Claret California.
2001 S. Anderson Claret California.
N.V. Sierra Oaks Estate Claret ____________.
1941 Simi Claret California.
N.V. Spicewood Vineyards Claret Texas.
2002 St. Francis Claret California.
2004 Steltzner Vineyards Claret California.
1998 Stonehouse Vintner's Reserve Claret California.
N.V. Sunstone Winery Claret _________.
2005 The Winery at La Grange Claret Virginia.
NV Tomasello Claret New Jersey.
2003 Tyrus Evan Claret Washington.
2004 Veritas Vineyard Claret Veritas Virginia.
2002 Vierra Vineyards Claret Washington.
2001 White Rock Claret California.
N.V. Woodland Trail Winer Lakewood Claret Wisconsin.
Regards, Bob