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Argentine wine question

Postby Jim Grow » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:10 pm

I recently bought a single bottle of Cuvelier Los Andes 2006 for what I thought was a good price of $21. Is this a wine to cellar for 5-10 more years or is it approachable sooner. Having only one bottle I would rather lay it down than open it wAY to soon.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Carl Eppig » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:15 pm

Which one did you buy?
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Jim Grow » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:03 pm

The Grand Vin which is 70% Malbec,10% Merlot,10% Cabernet and 10% Syrah. abv of 15%
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:18 pm

It is the rare Argentine Malbec that truly needs age.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Tom Troiano » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:48 am

FWIW I agree with David and since it already had some age I'd go for it over the next 3-6 months.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Tom Troiano » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:54 am

If this is the wine then you may want to ignore my previous post and cellar a bit.

Cuvelier Los Andes Grand Malbec 2006
The Wine Advocate 95 points: "The deep purple-colored 2006 Grand Malbec has a stunning aromatic display of pain grille, mineral, espresso, black cherry, and black raspberry. Large-scaled yet elegant on the palate, it has gobs of succulent black fruits, serious depth and concentration, and enough stuffing to unfold for another 5-7 years. This lengthy, powerful effort's drinking window should be open from 2014 to 2036." Dec 2008
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby David M. Bueker » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:58 am

Oh no! Pain grille!!
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Sam Platt » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:52 am

I'll bite - what is "pain grille"?
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Dale Williams » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:53 am

Different wine. I think the Grand Malbec is the top wine, the Grand Vin the midtier.
I have one cellared bottle of Argentine Malbec, a 2003 Achaval Ferrer single vineyard that is in a box at a bottom of a pile, and which I plan on digging out soon.
My general feeling re Malbec AND re Rolland wines is that drinking young with a steak is preferable to taking chances on aging.

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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Sam Platt » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:09 pm

Thanks Dale. I would try to work in "pain grille" at the next wine tasting I attend, but I don't want to get punched in the face. :)
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Redwinger » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:17 pm

Sam-
Pain grille ain't just for breakfast anymore.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Tom Troiano » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:25 pm

Sam Platt wrote:I'll bite - what is "pain grille"?


Literally it translates to "toast". I can't speak to Mr. Parker's intepretation.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby David M. Bueker » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:40 pm

Tom Troiano wrote:
Sam Platt wrote:I'll bite - what is "pain grille"?


Literally it translates to "toast". I can't speak to Mr. Parker's intepretation.


Expensive toast.
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Re: Argentine wine question

Postby Carl Eppig » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:46 pm

I think the wine he's describing is their Coleccion Red Blend Mendoza and not the varietal Malbec.
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