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Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Joy Lindholm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:17 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/france-wine-beaujolais-idUSL5E8KQ4NJ20120926

While I don't think anyone will be any worse off with less Beaujolais Nouveau in the market this year, this doesn't bode well either for Cru Beaujolais.
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Tim York » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:31 pm

There's mixed news there. If it is correct, as the article states, that the wines will be more concentrated and therefore better (the latter doesn't necessarily follow, IMO), that is positive. On the other hand, if the low volumes mean that some producers will be bankrupt, that is a negative develop if it affects promising youngsters.
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Joy Lindholm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:44 pm

Tim York wrote:There's mixed news there. If it is correct, as the article states, that the wines will be more concentrated and therefore better (the latter doesn't necessarily follow, IMO), that is positive. On the other hand, if the low volumes mean that some producers will be bankrupt, that is a negative develop if it affects promising youngsters.


Agreed. I just hope the jump in price isn't so significant as to take away the affordability of great Cru Beaujolais. We have such great success selling Morgon and Moulin-a-Vent, as Burgundies of comparable quality can be 2-3 times the cost.
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Mark Lipton » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:08 pm

Joy Lindholm wrote:
Tim York wrote:There's mixed news there. If it is correct, as the article states, that the wines will be more concentrated and therefore better (the latter doesn't necessarily follow, IMO), that is positive. On the other hand, if the low volumes mean that some producers will be bankrupt, that is a negative develop if it affects promising youngsters.


Agreed. I just hope the jump in price isn't so significant as to take away the affordability of great Cru Beaujolais. We have such great success selling Morgon and Moulin-a-Vent, as Burgundies of comparable quality can be 2-3 times the cost.


Joy,
This brings to mind a question. Morgon and M-a-V are the two crus producing the most ageworthy wines. If I were buying Gamay wines to serve in the near term, I'd be looking to Chiroubles, Fleurie (some), Brouilly and the better non-Cru Beaujolais (Chermette, Brun, Lapierre's Raisins Gauloises). Do you think that your patrons would not be as willing to buy those "lesser" Crus? Just curious.

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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Joy Lindholm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:14 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:Joy,
This brings to mind a question. Morgon and M-a-V are the two crus producing the most ageworthy wines. If I were buying Gamay wines to serve in the near term, I'd be looking to Chiroubles, Fleurie (some), Brouilly and the better non-Cru Beaujolais (Chermette, Brun, Lapierre's Raisins Gauloises). Do you think that your patrons would not be as willing to buy those "lesser" Crus? Just curious.

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Absolutely, but from what is currently available here we have found two offerings of these crus that stand out. Our list is less than 100 labels, so we have to narrow down quite a bit.
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Jenise » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:01 pm

Interesting article, Joy, thanks for posting.
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Dan Smothergill » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:37 am

Joy,
I'm a novice about Beaujolais. When I looked up Morgon I found three: Georges Duboeuf Morgon Descombes, Georges Duboeuf Morgon Domaine de la Chaponne and Georges Duboeuf Morgon Flower Label Cru Du Beaujolais. Were you referring to one of them?

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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Joy Lindholm » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:06 pm

Dan Smothergill wrote:Joy,
I'm a novice about Beaujolais. When I looked up Morgon I found three: Georges Duboeuf Morgon Descombes, Georges Duboeuf Morgon Domaine de la Chaponne and Georges Duboeuf Morgon Flower Label Cru Du Beaujolais. Were you referring to one of them?

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Dan,
I am referring to small grower-producer Beaujolais, rather than négociant (someone buying grapes from many growers and selling them under their own label) based Beaujolais. Georges Duboeuf, Louis Jadot, and Joseph Drouhin are three of the most well known négociant in Beaujolais and Burgundy. The Morgon I was referring to is made by Jean-Paul Thévenet. Here is a link to the importer, Kermit Lynch's site, where you can find other great cru Beaujolais: http://kermitlynch.com/our_wines/jean-paul-thvenet/.

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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby James Roscoe » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:08 pm

Kermit Lynch is money in the bank!
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Re: Bad News for Beaujolais (Nouveau)

Postby Rahsaan » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:44 pm

James Roscoe wrote:Kermit Lynch is money in the bank!


C'mon, at least some of his wines are cheap and cheerful.
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