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November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:41 pm
by Robin Garr
Since this thread is already working, let's just make it the monthly topic! Bring on your Cab Franc notes from all over the world, and as a subtext, Cab Franc lovers, (TROLL ALERT!) try to make the case that this variety deserves single varietal status beyond its traditional role in Bordeaux as a blending grape.

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:54 pm
by Salil
Cabernet Franc? (incl. Cab Franc heavy blends)

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:15 pm
by ChaimShraga
What Salil said.

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:56 pm
by David M. Bueker
It's a little off beat, but not too much. I like it.

Plus Cab Franc is pretty versatile with the Thanksgiving meal.

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:40 pm
by David Mc
I recently had a Nissley (PA) Cab Franc that I thought was mediocre on day one but really opened up the next day - it was fantastic. So, I'm anxious to try some Francs.

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:07 pm
by Salil
David M. Bueker wrote:It's a little off beat, but not too much. I like it.

Plus Cab Franc is pretty versatile with the Thanksgiving meal.

Baudry mag? :D

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:35 am
by Mark Lipton
Salil wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:It's a little off beat, but not too much. I like it.

Plus Cab Franc is pretty versatile with the Thanksgiving meal.

Baudry mag? :D


That's certainly something to be thankful for, Salil! :D

Mark Lipton

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:35 am
by Bob Parsons Alberta
Excuse me but I thought we had chatted about S Italy for November?

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:25 am
by Tim York
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Excuse me but I thought we had chatted about S Italy for November?


We did. But I would never object to doing Cabernet franc. Southern Italy certainly deserves a whirl sometime and a cold month would be suitable for these mostly gutsy wines.

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:32 pm
by Robin Garr
Tim York wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Excuse me but I thought we had chatted about S Italy for November?


We did. But I would never object to doing Cabernet franc. Southern Italy certainly deserves a whirl sometime and a cold month would be suitable for these mostly gutsy wines.

Yeah, the tide is clearly flowing for Cabernet Franc. So much so that I'm inclined to make it so. "Ping!"

We can certainly keep the Mezzogiorno on the list for another winter month, though. And while we wait, here's a wine-geek question I had never thought of before: Where would you draw the line in dividing Southern Italian wines from those of the North? The traditional definition of the Mezzogiorno includes Abruzzo and Molise along with the more usual suspects of the toe and heel, but I tend to lump the wines and food of Abruzzo in with its northern neighbors. What say you experts?

Re: Almost November: What to discuss for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:44 pm
by Tim York
Robin Garr wrote:
Tim York wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Excuse me but I thought we had chatted about S Italy for November?


We did. But I would never object to doing Cabernet franc. Southern Italy certainly deserves a whirl sometime and a cold month would be suitable for these mostly gutsy wines.

Yeah, the tide is clearly flowing for Cabernet Franc. So much so that I'm inclined to make it so. "Ping!"

We can certainly keep the Mezzogiorno on the list for another winter month, though. And while we wait, here's a wine-geek question I had never thought of before: Where would you draw the line in dividing Southern Italian wines from those of the North? The traditional definition of the Mezzogiorno includes Abruzzo and Molise along with the more usual suspects of the toe and heel, but I tend to lump the wines and food of Abruzzo in with its northern neighbors. What say you experts?


I agree. I think that the Abruzzo wines have a more central Italian character. FWIW my favourite Italian supplier, whose tasting I couldn't attend today :( , includes them in central Italy.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:37 pm
by Carl Eppig
We have three different Cab Francs in the rack, but some from Abruzzo too. Take your pick.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:16 pm
by ChaimShraga
Great. Finally I have a wine in the bullpen that totally fits this month's theme.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:12 pm
by Kelly Young
Chinon and Bourgueil, come to papa!

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:54 am
by Bob Parsons Alberta
Yup, true Loire-heads should be happy this month. I`m ready naturally.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:36 pm
by David Creighton
there are also plenty of CF's from MI, NY, ON and VA.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:18 pm
by Carl Eppig
David Creighton wrote:there are also plenty of CF's from MI, NY, ON and VA.


As well as NC and we have one, as well as from NY and CA. Need to find some from Loire.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:37 pm
by Thomas G
Cabernet franc sounds good. I have one from NJ and some Loires.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:03 pm
by Pinchas L
I was wondering if you would be open to the idea of honoring Rogov by designating Israeli wines as the wine focus of the month. I acknowledge that Israeli wines, given their current state do not deserve that designation on their own, but it would be a nice gesture in Rogov's honor, and I can only speculate how many more decades will pass before Israeli wines would earn the spot outright.

Cheers,
-> Pinchas

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:26 pm
by Bob Parsons Alberta
Pinchas L wrote:I was wondering if you would be open to the idea of honoring Rogov by designating Israeli wines as the wine focus of the month. I acknowledge that Israeli wines, given their current state do not deserve that designation on their own, but it would be a nice gesture in Rogov's honor, and I can only speculate how many more decades will pass before Israeli wines would earn the spot outright.

Cheers,
-> Pinchas


Very nice idea, but how many of us have access to such wines? May I make a suggestion Pinchas? Start an Open Mike: Israeli Wines thread and we can all post thoughts and tastings there.
I myself have started many Open Mikes and most have had great response. Open Mike: Douro ran to six pages I believe.

Bob Alberta.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:22 pm
by Robin Garr
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Very nice idea, but how many of us have access to such wines? May I make a suggestion Pinchas? Start an Open Mike: Israeli Wines thread and we can all post thoughts and tastings there.
I myself have started many Open Mikes and most have had great response. Open Mike: Douro ran to six pages I believe.

Excellent, Bob! I love the idea of an Israeli wine retrospective, but indeed, the wines are just a little too difficult to find in many parts of the world to sustain a 30-day Wine Focus. I think an Open Mike discussion would generate lots of interest, though.

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:25 pm
by James Roscoe
There ought to be a way to honor Rogov for a month without resorting to Israeli wines. Put your thinking caps on folks!!!!

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:02 pm
by Bob Parsons Alberta
When I think Cab Franc, I think Chinon! Here is a very good video.....>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNt82EOfwUo

Re: Almost November: Cab Franc for Wine Focus?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:44 pm
by David Mc
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:When I think Cab Franc, I think Chinon! Here is a very good video.....>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNt82EOfwUo


Love those old guys at the end chugging those huge glasses of Cab Franc!