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Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:11 pm
by Jenise
Gotta have me some REAL wine this weekend: an 2001 D'Armailhac and a 1998 Lafon Rochet are already in decanters. Covert's doing one or both, too.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:33 pm
by James Dietz
I've got both of those wines. So, what is the deal, kind of a virtual tasting????

I'm opening an '00 Monte Bello at dinner tomorrow night. So it might be some weekend!!

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:40 pm
by James Roscoe
I don't have either, but could I still find them commercially? I can't locate Otto's Italian. I'd rather have the Bordeaux anyway.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:46 pm
by James Dietz
James, both are still available, and since you live in the DC area, you might get lucky.

If you don't use it already, try http://www.wine-searcher.com

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:48 pm
by OW Holmes
Jenise wrote:Gotta have me some REAL wine this weekend: an 2001 D'Armailhac and a 1998 Lafon Rochet are already in decanters. Covert's doing one or both, too.


Nuts, I thought you said a 98 GPL. I have a few of those......

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:52 pm
by James Roscoe
James Dietz wrote:James, both are still available, and since you live in the DC area, you might get lucky.

If you don't use it already, try http://www.wine-searcher.com


I find wine searcher to be inadequate for my purposes. The shops I frequent aren't in their database.

Now some one will tell me I'm wrong. I hope so. I've tried using it in the past with little success.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:53 pm
by wrcstl
YOU DA WOMAN!! Finally an open mike to talk about. Will open something '90 or earlier. This should bring out all the Bordeaux Nuts. One of the three wines my wife likes, old Bordeaux, vintage Champagne and Chablis.
Walt

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:22 am
by Bob Parsons Alberta
I`m up for this one but will have to be something earlier, probably a `90. Chile and Calif. cab sauv can take a back seat (Wine Focus) for a few days!!!!

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:41 am
by Jenise
Oliver, the 98 GPL is drinking fantastically right now--surprisingly big and open--IIRC. [Thinking real hard....] Yeah, it was. And the Pontet Canet wasn't.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:08 pm
by James Dietz
Waiting for your report on the two wines... I know you drank them last night...so.. fess up!!

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:03 pm
by Saina
Jenise wrote:1998 Lafon Rochet are already in decanters.


I've got one of these. I'll be happy to hear how it is. I wouldn't expect it to be very approachable now though - this being the year of the tannins and all, and this property being known for being tannic anyway. Tannin + tannin = yikes for now, probably yum in 10 years time. That's the formula I thought for myself based on generalities of vintage and producer, but would be happy to hear what it is actually like!

-o-

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:44 pm
by Bob Parsons Alberta
Otto Nieminen wrote:
Jenise wrote:1998 Lafon Rochet are already in decanters.


I've got one of these. I'll be happy to hear how it is. I wouldn't expect it to be very approachable now though - this being the year of the tannins and all, and this property being known for being tannic anyway. Tannin + tannin = yikes for now, probably yum in 10 years time. That's the formula I thought for myself based on generalities of vintage and producer, but would be happy to hear what it is actually like!

-o-


Otto, us Europeans must stick together!! Over here, they all drink them too young. Ooops here come the emails!!

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:35 am
by keith prothero
has anyone tasted the 98 Calon Segur ? I guess it probably needs a few years yet,but would be interested in any feedback on this.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:00 am
by Bob Parsons Alberta
Keith, what are you doing over here?!!!!! Welcome to this side of the pond, guess we can finally get into Pinotage ....at last!!

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:37 am
by keith prothero
Hi Bob, Thought I would pop over and see how the poorer half lived :lol: Actually,Joel Goldberg and Sally are coming to an offline I am organising in London next month and I thought I would have a look into where he lurks.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:46 am
by OW Holmes
Welcome, Kieth, and I hope you post your notes of the offline.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:15 am
by keith prothero
Thanks OW------Yes I will post some notes. I assume you are a regular McCool,in view of your address.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:27 am
by OW Holmes
You bet. Since finding it some three or four years ago, I haven't missed, and this last year brought my daughter Karn along, and she says she will never miss it either. So at your offline, please encourage Joel and Sally to continue.
I was also privileged to be on Joel's "WineCAM" committee representing the views of consumers in the effort to open Michigan's borders to wine shipments by wineries. As you probably heard, he was successful and we Michigan consumers owe him a great debt of gratitude for all his efforts.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:04 pm
by Jenise
Keith, good to see you again. No help on the 98 CS from me, but maybe someone else will chime in. If the Lafon Rochet is any gauge, the Calon might be entering an open phase.

Re: Open Mike: Bordeaux double-header

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:44 pm
by Bob Parsons Alberta
keith prothero wrote:Hi Bob, Thought I would pop over and see how the poorer half lived :lol: Actually,Joel Goldberg and Sally are coming to an offline I am organising in London next month and I thought I would have a look into where he lurks.


Yeah that`s great!! We could sure use your imput over here sometimes as you have a ton of wine tasting experience.
Forumites, if anyone is interested in what is happening in the South Africa wine industry, Keith is your man. He also has a property over there so is on top of everything!!