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The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:42 pm
by Dale Williams
PREMIERS GRANDS CRUS CLASSÉS A:
Ausone
Cheval Blanc


PREMIERS GRANDS CRUS CLASSÉS B:
Angélus
Beauséjour (Duffau-Lagarrosse)
Beau-Séjour-Bécot
Belair
Canon
Figeac
La Gaffelière
Magdelaine
Pavie
Pavie-Macquin (Promoted from GCC)
Troplong-Mondot (Promoted from GCC)

Trottevieille
Clos Fourtet


GRANDS CRUS CLASSÉS
Balestard la Tonnelle
Bellefont-Belcier (Promoted )
Bergat
Berliquet
Cadet Piola
Canon la Gaffelière
Cap de Mourlin
Chauvin
Corbin
Corbin Michotte
Dassault
Destieux (Promoted)
Fleur-Cardinale ( Promoted)

Fonplégade
Fonroque
Franc Mayne
Grand Corbin (Promoted)
Grand Corbin Despagne (Promoted)

Grand Mayne
Grand Pontet
Haut Corbin
Haut Sarpe
L'Arrosée
La Clotte
La Couspaude
La Dominique
La Serre
La Tour Figeac
Laniote
Larcis Ducasse
Larmande
Laroque
Laroze
Le Prieuré
Les Grandes Murailles
Matras
Monbousquet (Promoted)
Moulin du Cadet
Pavie-Decesse
Ripeau
Saint-Georges-Côte-Pavie
Soutard
Clos de l'Oratoire
Clos des Jacobins
Clos Saint-Martin
Couvent des Jacobins


Chateaux have been demoted from GCC:

Bellevue
Cadet-Bon
Faurie de Souchard
Guadet-St. Julien
La Tour du Pin Figeac (Giraud-Bélivier)
La Tour du Pin Figeac (J. M. Moueix)
Lamarzelle
Petit-Faurie-de-Soutard
Tertre Daugay
Villemaurine
Yon-Figeac

Curé-Bon & La Clusiere were removed from GCC list because they were absorbed (by Canon and Pavie respectively).
The garagistes are generally absent as they declined to enter the process.

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:43 pm
by Robin Garr
Interesting stuff, Dale, and thanks for posting it.

Do you think it's significant that several properties are promoted but none demoted? Politics, or just good wine making?

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:59 pm
by Dale Williams
Robin, those 11 chateaux at bottom were demoted (removed from Grand Cru Classe, can only be listed as St Emilion Grand Cru).

None of the PGCC were demoted (there were rumors re Beausejour-Duffau , but they survived).

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:08 pm
by Robin Garr
Dale Williams wrote:Robin, those 11 chateaux at bottom were demoted (removed from Grand Cru Classe, can only be listed as St Emilion Grand Cru).


Geez, I read right past that, Dale. Guess it's a little late to delete my silly post now ... :oops:

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:03 pm
by Dale Williams
Robin, you're the all powerful janitor, edit and then delete my answer!

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:53 pm
by Robin Garr
Dale Williams wrote:Robin, you're the all powerful janitor, edit and then delete my answer!


As Nixon famously said on the Watergate tapes, Dale, "We could do it, but it would be wrong, that's for sure."

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:14 pm
by James Roscoe
Robin Garr wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:Robin, you're the all powerful janitor, edit and then delete my answer!


As Nixon famously said on the Watergate tapes, Dale, "We could do it, but it would be wrong, that's for sure."


I bet you old hippies think Nixon doesn't look so bad any more! :twisted:

Back to the regularly scheduled wine chat. Pardon the stupid political interruption. :P

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:20 pm
by Robin Garr
James Roscoe wrote:I bet you old hippies think Nixon doesn't look so bad any more! :twisted:


Compared to the incumbent, he's a statesman.

Actually, it's arguable that Nixon was our last liberal president. He supported wage and price controls, opened China, instituted food stamps and actually would have pushed for a guaranteed minimum income for all Americans if that little Watergate thing hadn't come up.

If he was president today, the Limbaughs and O'Reillys and Coulter's would be screaming for his scalp and calling him a communist.

Back to the regularly scheduled wine chat. Pardon the stupid political interruption. :P


Great idea! :roll:

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:59 pm
by James Roscoe
Robin Garr wrote:
James Roscoe wrote:I bet you old hippies think Nixon doesn't look so bad any more! :twisted:


Compared to the incumbent, he's a statesman.

Actually, it's arguable that Nixon was our last liberal president. He supported wage and price controls, opened China, instituted food stamps and actually would have pushed for a guaranteed minimum income for all Americans if that little Watergate thing hadn't come up.

If he was president today, the Limbaughs and O'Reillys and Coulter's would be screaming for his scalp and calling him a communist.

Back to the regularly scheduled wine chat. Pardon the stupid political interruption. :P


Great idea! :roll:


This is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's hardly even fun. :D :mrgreen:

I think you might be overstating the case a little, but Nixon was an interesting dichotomy. It will be interesting to see if his brand of Republicanism makes a comeback after the fall elections.

Oops, I said we'd go back to wine. How 'bout that new classification? Can I get any deals from St. Emilion or are those days gone forever?

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:04 pm
by Hoke
Nixon was an interesting dichotomy.


I always spelled it different.

Re: The new St. Emilion classification is out

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:10 pm
by David M. Bueker
Hoke wrote:
Nixon was an interesting dichotomy.


I always spelled it different.


So did Frank Zappa...