WineLovers Discussion Group

01) Dale Williams (Doctors without Borders/ Medicins sans Frontieres)
02) Howie Hart (Catholic Relief Services)
03) Pavane (Alan) (DWB/MSF)
04) Jenise (DWB as well as Red Cross)
05) Oswaldo Costa (Partners in Health)
06) Bob Parsons (Canadian Red Cross)
07) David Bueker (DWB/MSF & Red Cross)
08 ) Matt Richman (CARE)
09) Ramon Cabrera (DWB/MSF)
10) Mike Filigenzi (DWB/MSF)
11) Bruce K (DWB/MSF)
12) Steve Edmunds (PIH)
13)Marcy Lotterman (DWB/MSF)
14) Michael K (Red Cross)
15) Carl Eppig (CRS)
16) Jon Peterson (DWB/MSF)
17) Jacque Jennett (DWB/MSF)
18) The Real Jay Miller (Red Cross)
19) Robin Garr ( Episcopal Relief and Development)
20) Mark Lipton (PIH)
21) Rob Baron (American Jewish World Relief and Filmaid)
22)Bill Paumen (PIH)
23) Glenn Mackles (Red Cross)
24) Drew Hall (DWB/MSF)
25) Jessica Kowalski (DWB/MSF)
26) Jill Niland (PIH)
27) Lori Jacobson (DWB/MSF)
28) Alicia Luke (DWB?MSF)
29) Larry Young (Save the Children)
30) Jim Blair (Clinton Foundation -Haiti Relief)
31) Warren T (Red Cross and International Rescue Committee)
32) Diane Kessler (DWB/MSF)
33) Sam Platt (red Cross)
34) Jacques Levy (DWB/MSF)
35) Chef Carey (American Friends Service Committee/Handicap International)
36) Roger Saur (AFYA)
37) Robert Scheer (DWB/MSF)
38) Robin Roundtree (CF-HR)
39) Rahill Briggs (PIH)
40) Ian Amstad (DWB/MSF)
41) Ron Vincent (CARE)
42) Scott Hurt (DWB/MSF)
43) Cherie Leonard (DWB/MSF)
44) Richard Fadeley (Red Cross)
45) Jim Vandegriff (DWB/MSF)
46) Stephen Chu (DWB/MSF)
47) Julia B (RC)
48) Greg H (RC)
49) Jo Ann Henderson (CF)
50) Alan Wolfe (International Missions Outreach Haiti)
51) Jim Knudson (RC)
52) Tom N. (DWB/MSF)
53) Mark Roth (UNICEF -Haiti)
54) Tony Fletcher (International Rescue Committee, Mercy Corps and International Fund for Animal Welfare)
55) Robert Reynolds (DWB/MSF)
56) Matilda L (DWB/MSF)
57) Yossi David (Mazon)
58) Pat Carey (DWB/MSF)
59) Kyrstyn Kralovec (DWB/MSF)
60) Jeff Grossman (PIH)
61) Tyler "Dr Vino" Colman (PIH)
62) Linda Foxworth (RC)
63) Rod Clausnitzer (RC)
64) Bob Hendrick (DWB/MSF)
65) JC (IRC/Episcopal Relief)
66) Rainbow Di Benedetto (IFAW)
67) Mary Rocca (DWB/MSF)
68) Fred Cottineau (DWB/MSF)
69) LC (Red Cross)
70) Joshua Kates (DWB/MSF)
71) Doug Surplus (Global Impact)
72) Mark S (CRS)

We should well over $5K, thanks to a lot of generous donors!
Prize awards start at close of business day this Friday

NB: these prizes are just in order they were donated and will be "drawn", there is no 1st/grand prize
Prize #1 - choice of 4 Bdx from 4 decades (DW)
Prize#2- 6 bottles of Hart Cellars (Howie) wine- your choice across a variety of varieties! (HH)
Prize #3 Case of ESJ Bone Jolly (SE)
Prize #4 Mag of '95 ESJ Durrell (SE)
Prize #5 set of 3 '97 Ridges- Geyserville, Lytton Springs & York Creek Petite Sirah (DB)
Prize #6 4 Tobin James- 06 Cabernet Franc James Gang Reserve, 06 Cabernet Sauvignon/Syrah James Gang Reserve,
06 Petite Sirah Black Magic, 07 Zinfandel Liquid Love, Late Harvest (MK) plus a TJ Dusi Vineyard Zinfandel (CE)
Prize #7 '05 ESJ Wylie-Fenaughty (RG)
Prize #8 2001 Napa Cabernet: Karl Lawrence Napa Cab, Wolf Family Vineyards Napa Cab and Lewelling Napa Cab (RC)
Prixe #9- 2 Brunellos- 2003 La Rasina and 2004 Siro Pacenti (PC)
Prize #10-2006 Rocca Family Vineyards Syrah & 2006 Rocca Cabernet Sauvignon (MR)

Great job Dale!

And thanks to everyone for participating!

I'll echo David's thanks. A turnout like this (both in terms of donations and of prizes) says an awful lot about this community.

Benevolence be damned! I'm playin' to win.

Actually, I am stunned that we were able to raise over $5000 for Haiti. Kudos to everyone who participated and to Dale for his leadership.

PS: Dale - you have me entered twice (#33 and #70)

Oops, thanks for catching that Sam!
You'r no longer #70.
22 minutes till first winner, whoo hoo!

I still haven't listed the wines I will contribute. I will survey the collection this weekend and come up with possibilities. Perhaps I will give the winner of my lot a choice of three out of six suggestions so if they like Zinfandels but not Pinot Noir or Chablis but not Riesling or Sauvignon Blanc, etc. they can pick three they might enjoy most.

nice, JC.
OK, DJIA closed at 10,172.98
No #98, so my prize will be recycled at end, it'll still be given out.
Monday's DJIA will determine who gets Howie's prize.
Sorry this is a little strungout, but I didn't expect quite so many prizes, and was looking for a drawing method that no one would feel is rigged.
Of course, this means there's still time to get more contributions in!

Dale-
Absolutely nothing to be sorry about. This is kinda fun and the cause is worthy. Thanks for getting this organized.
Bill

For the terminally curious and as a final inducement for people to donate, here is my analysis of the current odds:

Probability of winning something = 11%
Average value of winnings averaged over all participants in raffle: $20

These are both based on my estimation of value of the prizes and the assumption that donors will re-enter their prizes should an unclaimed number be drawn. Nonetheless, you won't see better odds anywhere, certainly not in your State Lottery. So, don't hesitate or procrastinate: donate now, donate often!

And also, many thanks to Dale for (yet again) initiating such an important and generous event and to all the donors for their generosity and helpful spirit.

Good luck and best wishes to all participants!
Mark Lipton

Great Dale,

Thanks for thinking of this whether or not I have made it under the wire.

Joshua Kates

I'll note that Birger Vejrum also made a very generous prize offer, a mag of 97 Gaja, but I think the logistics of shipping from Europe would too expensive/difficult.

Dale,

Don't know if you have a method to award prizes yet, but I can suggest a simple approach that we used for a baseball raffle a few years ago. Simply write the numbers 0 thru 7 on individual pieces of paper. Put all of them in a "tens" container. Write the numbers 0 thru 9 on another group of individual pieces of paper, and put them into a "ones" container. Randomly draw a number from the "tens" container and then draw a number from the "ones" container to award the prizes in order; i.e. "0" from the tens container and "7" from the ones container means the prize goes to entrant number 7. Do it with replacement and simply draw again if you pull the same set of numbers a second time.

Sam Platt wrote:Dale,

Don't know if you have a method to award prizes yet,

Sam-
He does. Read the original post by Dale.
Pay attention!
'Winger

Dale Williams wrote:I'll note that Birger Vejrum also made a very generous prize offer, a mag of 97 Gaja, but I think the logistics of shipping from Europe would too expensive/difficult.

(You're probably right, but what a generous offer!)

Sam,
good plan for an "on site" lottery, but since we are all basically spread out, I wanted something everyone could observe but not influence. If I was doing a drawing, let's say Ramon, Jacques, or Matt (all friends of mine) won a prize. Or even worse, one of my local wine friends who donated but no one here knows (Jacque, Rob, Fred). It wouldn't take a paranoid to wonder just a little. I just preferred to have a totally random generator (just like in the old style numbers games they'd use the last 3 digits of the day's racetrack take). I'm pretty sure no one thinks that anyone can manipulate the fractions in the DJIA! That's why when Robin volunteered to not be in drawing I told him he was in, no one can suspect a fix.

That said, and not wanting to draw out this too long (as we probably have about all the donors we're going to get), does anyone object to this?
Starting Monday, we go through the prizes in order (starting with #2, mine will go to back of the line) using the DJIA, S&P, and Nasdaq fractions? Even with some misses we can have everything done much sooner. I don't generally like to change rules in midgame, but this will speed up things, without changing the odds of anyone winning. OK with everyone?

No objection.

Okay with me.

Redwinger wrote:Sam-
He does. Read the original post by Dale.
Pay attention!
'Winger

Oops...uh...Sure! Exactly! That's what I meant to suggest, myself... carry on...

Dale Williams wrote:I'll note that Birger Vejrum also made a very generous prize offer, a mag of 97 Gaja, but I think the logistics of shipping from Europe would too expensive/difficult.

Are you kidding, a mag of 97 Gaja olive oil? Seriously, I say let's include it, and Birger can kindly hold on to it until the winner goes to Europe sometime during the next couple of years, something he/she will certainly do with that as an incentive (alone worth the fare). Then Birger can ship it to Paris or London or Venice or wherever they go in the EEC.

Redwinger wrote:Okay with me.

Bill,I do not want to appear ignorant but what if I win something. Impossible to collect. Should I ask Dale to withdraw my name?

Bob

Bob - I go up to Canada on a regular basis. Between Laura and I we can bring in 4 bottles. Somehow we can get it into Alberta & talk about how it gets to you.

Oh - and no issue on the rules modification.

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:

Redwinger wrote:Okay with me.

Bill,I do not want to appear ignorant but what if I win something. Impossible to collect. Should I ask Dale to withdraw my name?

Bob

Bob,
Not sure that I am the proper person to ask this of. David, did however, offer one possibility.
Bill

Whatever rules work are fine with me. I didn't really plan on winning anything anyway. I just wanted to join up in a good cause...winning something is just a bonus.

Glenn

I'm with Glenn. I'm good with any rules you're good with, Dale.