Howard wrote:Your points are well taken using inflation adjusted numbers but what about the cost for a case of 2eme Bordeaux? I noticed today that Winebid has a case of 2005 Ducru-Beaucaillou starting at nearly $200/bottle!! What was it going for in 1980? Was it as good then as it is now?
A pity I'll never get to taste any of this. Tulip bulbs anyone?
Howard wrote:I understood that you meant "affordable" but was good claret unaffordable back then? Was Clinet or Gazin or any of the other "lesser" houses the equivalent of 50-60-80/bottle? Are wines much better now to justify it? Somehow I had this naive impression that a good glass of bordeaux used to be available for a reasonable price, not a Lafite or Mouton, but not necessarily a jug wine either. Just a good glass of bordeaux with dinner. Was it like that?
I do remember writing about Pontet-Canet in a late '70s vintage, and I don't think I could have paid more than $6 or $7 for it, because I didn't generally review the "really expensive" wines in the newspaper. I do remember buying a fair number of 1982s, not the first growths but labels like Gloria and maybe even Cos, and it seems to me that $10 was my personal limit at that point.
Howard wrote:It's just that I like Bordeaux, and it's getting harder to find good Bordeaux at reasonable prices.
Robin Garr wrote:Howard wrote:It's just that I like Bordeaux, and it's getting harder to find good Bordeaux at reasonable prices.
I think it's entirely possible, Howard, that Bordeaux might be an exception to the general hypothesis that most wines have not exceeded the pace of inflation over the past 20 years or so.
It also occurs to me that Bordeaux might be the one region in which Parker's influence has been strongest, and one in which he retains a personal hand even as he spins off many other wine regions to surrogates?
Hoke wrote:The wine was much as you described it
Robin Garr wrote:Made by Bodegas Olivares in the Jumilla region from the Monastrell grape (which most of the rest of the world knows by its French name, Mourvèdre) . . .
New World alias name for the Mourvedre grape variety. (See below).
Robust mediterranean hot climate grape variety widely grown in the southern Rhone region of France and mainly used to introduce color and body to the red wine blends. Normally ripens in mid-October, ie. a week or so after Carignan. Select limited plantings occur in California where the variety is often called the Mataro, a relationship recently confirmed (3/98.) by DNA analysis at UC Davis, and are used to produce a wine that sometimes develops the "green tea-like" herbal character that Rhone region french growers refer to as "animalé". Common false aliases, probably due to early mis-identification, in Australia are Mataro, Morrastel and Graciano. The cultivar known as Monastrell that is grown in Spain and previously thought to be identical is not related.
Has synonym name Morrastel). Recent DNA evidence (3/98.) suggests that the library varieties from UC Davis, California and Montpellier, France used in the tests are identical to Moristel and have no relationship to Mourvèdre. The variety thrives in warm, arid climates. With careful vinification and much racking before bottling the wines are capable of ageing well.
Clinton Macsherry wrote:Just makes me wonder where Mourvedre's other alias, "Mataro," comes from. Sure sounds Spanish. Hmmm . . .