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WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

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WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Matt Richman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:22 pm

I drank a small glass of this as a wine pairing at Alinea in Chicago. Nice to be able to check in on it without popping one of my bottles. I had the drinking window starting in 2012, but now I think I should move that up earlier.



2003 Pape Clement
Surprisingly soft & approachable. Lots of coffee, chocolate. Inky, black with a long drying bitter finish. Very full flavored & bold. Atypical bordeaux at this age. Soft but has the stuffing to last, wonder about the structure for long-term aging.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Oswaldo Costa » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:32 pm

Yup, that jives with the drinkability of the 03 Leoville Barton I opened recently. Hotter vintages may never close and be drinkable earlier than the usual Bdx rule of thumb, all at the cost of compromised longevity...
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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by David M. Bueker » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:49 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:Hotter vintages may never close and be drinkable earlier than the usual Bdx rule of thumb, all at the cost of compromised longevity...


Although if all Bordeaux vintages needed/could stand long aging what would we drink in the interim?
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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Matt Richman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:33 pm

Leoville Barton? That is a real surprise to me. Tomorrow night we'll be drinking a 2003 Montrose, another chateau that typically takes a long time to come around. I'll let you know.

I know hot vintages come around sooner, but 82 and 90 weren't really ready like this.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Mark S » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:06 pm

Matt Richman wrote:I know hot vintages come around sooner, but 82 and 90 weren't really ready like this.



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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Oswaldo Costa » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:29 pm

Matt Richman wrote:Leoville Barton? That is a real surprise to me.


:lol: Just five weeks ago you wrote, in response to my 03 LB note:

This tasting note shocks me. I liked this wine a whole lot in 2006, but I never expect a Leoville Barton to be ready to drink so early or to have such a short (10+ year) window of development.

Sounds like the Pape Clement is on a similar curve...
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Re: WTN: 2003 Pape Clement

by Matt Richman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:33 pm

I've been in a state of shock for 5 straight weeks.

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