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Could it be that NY...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:41 pm
by Thomas
is inching ever so much closer to wine in grocery stores?

Starting this Sunday, grocers no longer have to wait until noon to sell beer--they can sell it beginning at 8 am.

What does that have to do with wine in grocery stores? Sets the stage for the rest of the alcohol industry to ask for similar changes in laws.

Strange--ever since Southern Distributors enetered NY State the Liquor Authority has been loosening regulations that could be leveling the beer/wine playing field.

Speculation's all I have--but looks like a big maybe.

Re: Could it be that NY...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:04 pm
by Robin Garr
Thomas wrote:is inching ever so much closer to wine in grocery stores?


Thomas, I can't speculate about the trend here, other than to note that the beer and wine/liquor industries are traditionally implacable foes, and anything that beer gets doesn't necessarily imply that wine/liquor will.

I've always been puzzled, though, about how a Sunday closing law, much less a Sunday-<i>morning</I> closing law, can possibly withstand constitutional scrutiny. Anyone who thinks it has nothing to do with the hours of traditional Christian church services has just got to be kidding.

Re: Could it be that NY...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:05 pm
by Howie Hart
Thomas wrote:Starting this Sunday, grocers no longer have to wait until noon to sell beer--they can sell it beginning at 8 am.

GREAT!! Now I can pick up that 6 pack of Genny Cream before going to church! 8)

Re: Could it be that NY...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:54 pm
by Thomas
Howie Hart wrote:
Thomas wrote:Starting this Sunday, grocers no longer have to wait until noon to sell beer--they can sell it beginning at 8 am.

GREAT!! Now I can pick up that 6 pack of Genny Cream before going to church! 8)


Especially if your church ain't air conditioned...

Re: Could it be that NY...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:02 pm
by Thomas
Robin Garr wrote:
Thomas wrote:is inching ever so much closer to wine in grocery stores?


Thomas, I can't speculate about the trend here, other than to note that the beer and wine/liquor industries are traditionally implacable foes, and anything that beer gets doesn't necessarily imply that wine/liquor will.

I've always been puzzled, though, about how a Sunday closing law, much less a Sunday-<i>morning</I> closing law, can possibly withstand constitutional scrutiny. Anyone who thinks it has nothing to do with the hours of traditional Christian church services has just got to be kidding.


Robin,

I don't see beer and wine wholesalers working together, but I do see a trend toward slackening the regs. Beer has had the grocery concession, and if things are made easier for beer, then wine will be able to make a stronger case.

Maybe I am reading too much into it all, but I know there are interests in the state wanting to make it happen, and in order for it to happen it will take some of the powerful in the industry to get it done.

If you want to get the feel of the 14th century, just spend a day at the NY Liquor Control Board offices. It comes complete with inquisitors, racks, and extortion.