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Paul Winalski
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Sam Platt
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Indiana, USA
Daniel Rogov
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Tel Aviv, Israel
Dale Williams
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
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Jonathan Loesberg wrote:Good Gigondas from a strong vintage can go 15 years or so. There will be exceptions, but figure an outside limit of 20. This is a negociant Gigondas from a weak vintage. There are always surprises in the world, so you may get lucky, but don't get your hopes up. On the other hand, if you didn't pay much, the tasting may have some educational value (like it may turn out I'm wrong about the aging potential of Guigal Gigondas).
Jonathan Loesberg wrote:As a S. Rhone wine nut, I'd be happy if this showed up at a tasting...
Jonathan Loesberg wrote:As a S. Rhone wine nut, I'd be happy if this showed up at a tasting, as long as there was enough back-up wine and we were prepared to declare it non compos mentis and move on. Over the hill wines that aren't dnpim are interesting at least for a sip or two and give you information on how to judge good wines that are moving through old age as to how far into old age they are.
But I don't want to discourage you playing either the Verdi or the Mozart Requiem. Along with Berlioz, Brahms and Faure, they are the Requiems that make life worth living.
Rahsaan wrote:Jonathan Loesberg wrote:As a S. Rhone wine nut, I'd be happy if this showed up at a tasting...
Mental note to Ryan, save this wine for when you meet Jonathan
Ryan Maderak wrote:But I don't want to discourage you playing either the Verdi or the Mozart Requiem. Along with Berlioz, Brahms and Faure, they are the Requiems that make life worth living.
Agreed! My little CD stash here at work currently includes the Verdi, Mozart, Brahms, and Faure Requiems, as well as the Rutter (which obviously isn't in the same league, but it has its moments). Have the A.L. Webber (initials make it look much less vulgar!) at home - very interesting one that, very 20th century, not at all like the rest of his stuff - and it too has it's moments. Not familiar with the Berlioz requiem - in fact I wasn't particularly aware that he wrote one.
Otto Nieminen wrote: If you chaps don't mind Renaissance music, there are plenty of nice Requiems to add to the list. I am most familiar with Iberian polyphony so I'll just add two names for now: Victoria and Cardoso. Sublime pieces both of them.
Ryan Maderak wrote:I love Victoria - will have to seek it out - did he write just one Requiem?
Ryan Maderak wrote:Rahsaan wrote:Jonathan Loesberg wrote:As a S. Rhone wine nut, I'd be happy if this showed up at a tasting...
Mental note to Ryan, save this wine for when you meet Jonathan
May just have to do that. Jonathan, where are you located?
Jonathan Loesberg wrote:I'm in DC.
Ryan Maderak wrote:Jonathan Loesberg wrote:I'm in DC.
At American University?
Jonathan Loesberg wrote:Ryan Maderak wrote:Jonathan Loesberg wrote:I'm in DC.
At American University?
Indeed. How did you guess?
Sam Platt wrote:Ryan,
Look at it as an adventure. As long as you didn't have to spend rent, or food money you can look at it as a learning experience. I've got a 1956 Paul Masson Zinfandel that I have really low hopes for. But you just never know...
ChefJCarey
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:06 pm
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Sam Platt
I am Sam, Sam I am
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:22 pm
Indiana, USA
Lou Kessler wrote:!956 Paul Masson Zin, how much did they pay you to take it away?
Ryan Maderak wrote:I Googled you.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Ryan Maderak wrote:So, yes, bummed, and thinking "what kind of utter idiot puts an impulsive bid in on wine/vintage he doesn't actually know about without doing any research first!?!"
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