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Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Tim York » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:20 pm

The French press today contains a report from Prof. Dominique Maraninchi of the (French) National Cancer Institute and Didier Houssin, Director General of Health, to the effect that as little as one glass a day of wine (unit of alcohol) entails a significantly increased risk of cancer. The report quotes 168% increased risk for cancers of the mouth, larynx and pharynx, 28% for the oesophagus, 10% for the breast and 9% for the bowel. I have read before that the association of tobacco and alcohol favours cancers of the upper digestive tract but this is the first time that I read such a sweeping condemnation of the carcinogenic effects of alcohol on its own.

Is this more disinformation from the French Public Health fascists or are there similar conclusions being drawn elsewhere?
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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by David M. Bueker » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:51 pm

Haven't heard about any studies that damning on this side of the Atlantic.
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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Norm N » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:25 pm

I've always associated moderate consumption of wine with reduced cancer risks....many studies seem to support this

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http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/fact ... prevention
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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Mark Lipton » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:40 pm

Tim York wrote:The French press today contains a report from Prof. Dominique Maraninchi of the (French) National Cancer Institute and Didier Houssin, Director General of Health, to the effect that as little as one glass a day of wine (unit of alcohol) entails a significantly increased risk of cancer. The report quotes 168% increased risk for cancers of the mouth, larynx and pharynx, 28% for the oesophagus, 10% for the breast and 9% for the bowel. I have read before that the association of tobacco and alcohol favours cancers of the upper digestive tract but this is the first time that I read such a sweeping condemnation of the carcinogenic effects of alcohol on its own.

Is this more disinformation from the French Public Health fascists or are there similar conclusions being drawn elsewhere?


Tim,
I keep a fairly close eye on studies of this sort and haven't seen anything close to this. Recent studies in fact swing much more to the opposite conclusion: that moderate consumption of alcohol and wine in particular is associated with a lower incidence of several diseases such as cancer and heart disease. Regarding the statistics: 168% increases mean little until one knows the raw numbers. For instance, the difference between 5 and 3 (out of 10,000) is a 168% increase, but could easily be within a statistical margin of error.

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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Charles Weiss » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:39 pm

Mark Lipton wrote:
Tim York wrote:The French press today contains a report from Prof. Dominique Maraninchi of the (French) National Cancer Institute and Didier Houssin, Director General of Health, to the effect that as little as one glass a day of wine (unit of alcohol) entails a significantly increased risk of cancer. The report quotes 168% increased risk for cancers of the mouth, larynx and pharynx, 28% for the oesophagus, 10% for the breast and 9% for the bowel. I have read before that the association of tobacco and alcohol favours cancers of the upper digestive tract but this is the first time that I read such a sweeping condemnation of the carcinogenic effects of alcohol on its own.

Is this more disinformation from the French Public Health fascists or are there similar conclusions being drawn elsewhere?


Tim,
I keep a fairly close eye on studies of this sort and haven't seen anything close to this. Recent studies in fact swing much more to the opposite conclusion: that moderate consumption of alcohol and wine in particular is associated with a lower incidence of several diseases such as cancer and heart disease. Regarding the statistics: 168% increases mean little until one knows the raw numbers. For instance, the difference between 5 and 3 (out of 10,000) is a 168% increase, but could easily be within a statistical margin of error.

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Mark,
That's about a 68% increase rather than 168% increase but your important point remains.

Tim,
Haven't seen the study, but "as little as one glass a day of wine (unit of alcohol)" suggests a grouping that was more than zero and was not more than a certain amount, but may have included people with high intake ---certainly high intake has been associated with oral, upper airway, esophageal cancers and breast cancers. Would be very surprised if 1 drink a day showed impressive risk increase, and there's lots of data for health benefit in moderate consumption.
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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Mark Lipton » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:04 am

Charles Weiss wrote:Mark,
That's about a 68% increase rather than 168% increase but your important point remains.


Erk. Right you are, Charles. Let's make the example 8 vs. 3 and forget my little mathematical faux pas.

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Re: Increased risk of cancer from one glass of wine?

by Tim York » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:41 am

I've found reports in the UK press about this. Needless to say, the UK Public Health fascists are also climbing onto this bandwagon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... rench.html

There are several others in the same vein.

PS There has been some discussion of this report on the Auswine forum and a link has been provided to a report which looks a lot more serious, which I haven't had time to assimilate http://www.cancerinstitute.org.au/cance ... cancer.pdf .

PS2 Here is a link to the actual press release in French of the National Cancer Institute - http://www.e-cancer.fr/Presse/Dossiers- ... -ve_1.html . They refer to an underlying brochure which presumably reveals any "serious" basis for these conclusions.
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