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Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
David M. Bueker wrote:Pinotage makes every weekend diverse!
Brian K Miller wrote:utterly strange bandaid flavor. Is this characteristic of South African wines?
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
Rahsaan wrote:Brian K Miller wrote:utterly strange bandaid flavor. Is this characteristic of South African wines?
Bandaid=brett.
Whether that is characteristic of South African wines I will leave to someone else
David M. Bueker
Riesling Guru
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:I have found that band-aid element in a lot of Pinotage (say 6-8 of hte 10 or so I have ever tried), so maybe it's the grape.
Rahsaan wrote:I seem to remember Paul B. complaining about 'modern' slicked-up non-bandaidey Pinotage.
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
Paul B. wrote:Rahsaan wrote:I seem to remember Paul B. complaining about 'modern' slicked-up non-bandaidey Pinotage.
Absolutely!
I find the modern ones "sanitized", if you will, and lacking those band-aidey/sulfury-coal/leather/estery aromas that first endeared me to the wine. While I decry the campaign against the old style, I do think there should be room for both: the squeaky-sanitized "offend nobody" style, and the cherished classical Pinotage that was still very much the norm among the immediate post-apartheid imports to Ontario.
Brian K Miller wrote:
LOL! I did have one California Pinotage from Fort Ross (South African Expats) which was rather clunky, if I am using the term correctly, but did not have the utterly strange bandaid flavor. Is this characteristic of South African wines?
Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
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Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
TomHill wrote:
Brian,
That sort of clunky/coarse character seems to go w/ Pinotage. That FtRoss version was, IMHO, the greatest Pinotage
I've ever tasted. What's amazing is that it's grown way the hell & gone out there on the Coast...very cold area.
The FtRoss Pinots are also rather good I think.
Tom
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
David M. Bueker wrote:I have found that band-aid element in a lot of Pinotage (say 6-8 of hte 10 or so I have ever tried), so maybe it's the grape.
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Brian K Miller wrote: It was certainly an interesting wine, Paul. Being the basic bottling, this one didn't have much, if any, oak treatment and was probably not tweaked to fit the international palate.
Brian K Miller wrote:
Tom: I tasted through a 2004 and pre-release 2005 lineup of Fort Ross wines at a nice wine shop in Albany, CA (on Solano Avenue), and they produced a 2004 Pinot/Pinotage blend that was quite good. The chunkiness helped broaden and add structure to a Pinot Noir that was a little thin in that vintage.
The 2005 vintage Pinot Noir didn't benefit as much from the Pinotage, though.
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
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Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
Bill Spohn wrote: I find selected Pinotages to be decent (Kanonkop is very reliable, and I've tasted OK Beyerskloof) but you have to look through a mass of indifferent ones to find the gems.
Bill Spohn
He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Vancouver BC
Peter May wrote:Bill Spohn wrote: I find selected Pinotages to be decent (Kanonkop is very reliable, and I've tasted OK Beyerskloof) but you have to look through a mass of indifferent ones to find the gems.
A sure sign of its Pinot Noir parentage
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