WTN: 95 Arroyo, Petite Sirah

1995, Vincent Arroyo, Petite Sirah:
There isn’t much fruit on the nose, rather elements of scorched earth, hickory smoke, asphalt, flowers and a very deep, dark-spice note; in the mouth its blackberry soda with accents from the nose, very grippy and just a little watery; moderate length, mouth-coating but pretty drying.
Here is one of those rarities – the oak has “integrated.” But it also has altered the basic make-up of the wine and diminished the fruit. Nothing complex here (unless you count the number of different charred-wood manifestations) and although it’s not a bad wine, it says nothing about petite sirah and gives little reason to want more.
And once again, I am persuaded that there is simply no reason to cellar petite sirah; either I like it on release or I shouldn’t buy it because it’s not going to change for the better.

Best, Jim

[David M. Bueker]

And again I mostly agree with you. Ridge is always the exception.

And Foppiano in my experience..

1995, Vincent Arroyo, Petite Sirah:
There isn’t much fruit on the nose, rather elements of scorched earth, hickory smoke, asphalt, flowers and a very deep, dark-spice note; in the mouth its blackberry soda with accents from the nose, very grippy and just a little watery; moderate length, mouth-coating but pretty drying.
Here is one of those rarities – the oak has “integrated.” But it also has altered the basic make-up of the wine and diminished the fruit. Nothing complex here (unless you count the number of different charred-wood manifestations) and although it’s not a bad wine, it says nothing about petite sirah and gives little reason to want more.
And once again, I am persuaded that there is simply no reason to cellar petite sirah; either I like it on release or I shouldn’t buy it because it’s not going to change for the better.Best, Jim

Jim,
Do you think the above holds true for the Turley petite sirah as well. I just bought a bottle of that and paid what is likely more than worth at $48. I sure would hate to think I been took!

[David M. Bueker]

Bob,

You paid a fair price for the Turley. Of course that presumes you like the style. I would drink now for the pure...all right I'll say it...hedonistic experience.

Bob,

You paid a fair price for the Turley. Of course that presumes you like the style. I would drink now for the pure...all right I'll say it...hedonistic experience.

Thanks for the comeback David I am not currently in possession of the PS but will not hold it for any long term aging.

1995, Vincent Arroyo, Petite Sirah:
There isn’t much fruit on the nose, rather elements of scorched earth, hickory smoke, asphalt, flowers and a very deep, dark-spice note; in the mouth its blackberry soda with accents from the nose, very grippy and just a little watery; moderate length, mouth-coating but pretty drying.
Here is one of those rarities – the oak has “integrated.” But it also has altered the basic make-up of the wine and diminished the fruit. Nothing complex here (unless you count the number of different charred-wood manifestations) and although it’s not a bad wine, it says nothing about petite sirah and gives little reason to want more.
And once again, I am persuaded that there is simply no reason to cellar petite sirah; either I like it on release or I shouldn’t buy it because it’s not going to change for the better.Best, Jim

Jim,
Do you think the above holds true for the Turley petite sirah as well. I just bought a bottle of that and paid what is likely more than worth at $48. I sure would hate to think I been took!

Bob, which Turley? I have a pretty good sense of the prices.

See also the discussion on the Rogov forum on the same topic.