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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Sam Platt » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:03 pm

Survey says...VIOLATION!

David is tough... but fair.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Redwinger » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:34 am

Sam Platt wrote:
Survey says...VIOLATION!

David is tough... but fair.

And also very WRONG!!
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby David M. Bueker » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:21 am

Well I already have 75+ bottles of ESJ in my cellar, so any purchase right now (regardless of price) would be a violation.

Also Bill - you go after the same buy every few weeks. Why not just stock up and be done with it?
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Redwinger » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:15 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Also Bill - you go after the same buy every few weeks. Why not just stock up and be done with it?


You're wrong again. I haven't purchased this wine in at least 6 months (Probably longer) and was surprised to see it still on the shelves at this price, as this is not a shop I get to very often. So I bought more...Geez!

Now, I do drink and post on a a number of ESJ wines, so I can see why you are confused. But, if my ESJ postings concern you for some reason, I usually indicate the wine in the subject line and anyone is free to ignore them.

Also, David- thank you for your interest in my buying habits. Thankfully NJ doesn't monitor it that closely.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby David M. Bueker » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:41 pm

Bill,

Not meant nearly as critically as you take it, but this thread is about trying to avoid buying, not telling us what great buys you just made.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Oswaldo Costa » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:04 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Bill,

Not meant nearly as critically as you take it, but this thread is about trying to avoid buying, not telling us what great buys you just made.


Very measured and elegant response.

This thread started off as a forum for those who want to control their compulsive buying habits, usually futile attempts to fill the "hole in the soul" through the acquisition of material objects. But since I think we all hate the idea of disciplining our hedonism, lately it has become a forum for smug posts about opportunities that just couldn't be resisted.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:07 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Bill,

Not meant nearly as critically as you take it, but this thread is about trying to avoid buying, not telling us what great buys you just made.


Good reminder David. I am just popping downtown to look over a few shelves, just refreshing ideas of course, before coming home to scan the cellar for something Mosel-ish for weekend drinking.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Sam Platt » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:51 pm

It's all in good fun, gang. The entertainment value is in the failed attempt at not purchasing wines. If none of use were in violation the posts would be a string of "I didn't buy any wine today". Not much excitement there.

PS: I did buy a nice Colombard this morning, but if it helps others to carry on the fight, I didn't feel good about it.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Jeff_Dudley » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:56 pm

Sam Platt wrote: ... PS: I did buy a nice Colombard this morning ...


A nice Colombard ? Tell me more. :wink:
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby David M. Bueker » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:14 pm

Actually Sam - the point is:

"I'm really tempted by the new release from XYZ. I love their wines. I hear 200X is a great vintage for them."

We respond: "Don't do it. How many bottles do you already have from XYZ? Drink some! There's will always be another great vintage."
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Jenise » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:57 pm

Well, I fell off the wagon again.

Had a 20% off coupon burning a hole in my wallet good for as few as four bottles or as many as I could fit in my car. So when you consider the damage I could have done, that I only purchased five bottles is commendable, no? Oh, and they were two 04 Felsina Rancia and three bottles of a really old-fashioned, biscuity little grower champagne called Triolet.

p.s. My case of Laurel Glen arrived this morning. I think when I mentioned it previously I said it was going to be at the outrageously low price of $19. Well, I was wrong. It was only $15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Sam Platt » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:25 pm

David Bueker wrote:Actually Sam - the point is:

"I'm really tempted by the new release from XYZ. I love their wines. I hear 200X is a great vintage for them."

We respond: "Don't do it. How many bottles do you already have from XYZ? Drink some! There's will always be another great vintage."

Okay David. I will try that approach. But I'm not making any promises. Intervention only goes so far. :)
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Sam Platt » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:30 pm

Jeff Dudley wrote:A nice Colombard ? Tell me more.

Jeff,

Whenever you get off of probation the 2005 Domaine De Mirail is a tasty Colombard at $11.00. I've not been a huge fan of that grape, but the Mirail is a nice sipper.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Charles Weiss » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:07 pm

Real progress from here.
The good news:
I realized that buying decisions are much more controlled when traveling and knowing a shipper has only so many slots. I only buy things I really (as in truly) want.
I've looked at cellar tracker to see my typical purchasing and consumption rates, and decided to limit my purchases to 18 bottles/month (with some exceptions I won't bore you further with), which should lead to inventory reduction even if consumption holds steady (though I hope it will rise!).

The better news: I shared this plan with my wife, who recognized it as rational and overdue.

The best news: This made her feel better about the 600-bottle Vinotheque I bought cheap at an estate sale today (won't take long to "save" enough in unpurchased bottles to pay for it).

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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:11 pm

The best news: This made her feel better about the 600-bottle Vinotheque I bought cheap at an estate sale today (won't take long to "save" enough in unpurchased bottles to pay for it).

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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Sam Platt » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:44 pm

Charles Weiss wrote:I realized that buying decisions are much more controlled when traveling and knowing a shipper has only so many slots. I only buy things I really (as in truly) want.
I've looked at cellar tracker to see my typical purchasing and consumption rates, and decided to limit my purchases to 18 bottles/month (with some exceptions I won't bore you further with), which should lead to inventory reduction even if consumption holds steady (though I hope it will rise!).

So effectively, Charles, your strategy is to buy the same amount of wine each month, but drink more? I'm not sure that is in keeping with the spirit of wine probation even if your wife does support the plan.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby David M. Bueker » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:57 pm

Now increased consumption is an idea I can get behind!
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Charles Weiss » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:09 am

Sam Platt wrote:
Charles Weiss wrote:I realized that buying decisions are much more controlled when traveling and knowing a shipper has only so many slots. I only buy things I really (as in truly) want.
I've looked at cellar tracker to see my typical purchasing and consumption rates, and decided to limit my purchases to 18 bottles/month (with some exceptions I won't bore you further with), which should lead to inventory reduction even if consumption holds steady (though I hope it will rise!).

So effectively, Charles, your strategy is to buy the same amount of wine each month, but drink more? I'm not sure that is in keeping with the spirit of wine probation even if your wife does support the plan.


No, it's a decrease in number of bottles purchased (about 25-30/month now), and less than current consumption.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:32 am

I tried Charles`s method....>No, it's a decrease in number of bottles purchased (about 25-30/month now), and less than current consumption.

I am consuming less but the crates and boxes seem to be piling up! Mrs P is convinced that recent vintages are to die for but wonders when it is all going to quieten down.
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Jenise » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:I tried Charles`s method....>No, it's a decrease in number of bottles purchased (about 25-30/month now), and less than current consumption.

I am consuming less but the crates and boxes seem to be piling up! Mrs P is convinced that recent vintages are to die for but wonders when it is all going to quieten down.


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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby James Roscoe » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:29 pm

Jenise wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Mrs. P? THERE'S A MRS. P? I have somehow always believed you to be a bachelor, Doris.

Or a bachelorette? :mrgreen:

I cannot subscribe to any of this. I have less than a 150 bottles. When do I stop? I was at the wine store yesterday and bought everything on the table. Help!
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:08 pm

Well, I am sort of single! Better-half might be a better line!!!
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby JC (NC) » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:40 pm

Support group I need your help. Tell me why I should NOT buy a Valpolicella Superiore Ripassa with great reviews at $29.99 and while your at it, help me avoid a purchase of Barroche CdP. (Are you familiar with Barroche? The few wines from this producer that I have sampled in the past were yummy.)
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Re: Wine probation support group starts here

Postby David M. Bueker » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:08 pm

JC (NC) wrote:Support group I need your help. Tell me why I should NOT buy a Valpolicella Superiore Ripassa with great reviews at $29.99 and while your at it, help me avoid a purchase of Barroche CdP. (Are you familiar with Barroche? The few wines from this producer that I have sampled in the past were yummy.)


Well I've never had a Valpolicella that ended up being as good as anyone said it was.

While you're at it, the quality level of Cotes du Rhone is so high now that I see little reason to buy Chateauneuf.
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