James Roscoe wrote:Otto,
Very cool to this ancient history teacher. I need to ask why the use of the term neo-Assyrians. I get the neo-Babylonians (Chaldeans) but why neo-Assyrians? I always thought the Assyrians were one culture that lasted from the sometime in the middle of the second millenium BC to the time the Medes and the Chaldeans ran them out of business at the end of the 7th century BC or thereabouts.
Also, weren't the Mesopotamians more of a beer drinking culture? My understanding has always been that beer was the drink of choice among the ancients, especially in Egypt, but also in the Tigris-Euphrates valley. Was this just among the peasants? I like to get this stuff right when I talk to the kids.
Hannu Lehmusvuori wrote:Oletko huomannut, että oma kotisivusi ei toimi?
Kaikki alalaidan linkit johtavat ihan minne sattuu - erityisesti yhteystiedot.
P.S. Aloitin suomalaiset viinisivut melko monta vuotta ennen omiasi, joten yksi yläylpistely kannattaisi korjata kenties
Bob Ross wrote:Otto, I've puzzled over this translation for several days, and I don't think this is a futures contract at all. I think it's just an agreement repay a loan in silver and in wine, with an out clause in case of need -- "market price of Ninive". Is Ninive a wine?
I can think of many contracts of this type over the years and cultures -- simple example, a share croppers contract sharing the crop 50/50 or 60/40 with the land owner. How sure are you of the context of your translation?
Otto Nieminen wrote:Sorry, forgot to answer one question, but James is indeed correct: Ninive/Niniveh/Nínua is a city (modern Mosul).
James Roscoe wrote:Nineveh is actually outside Mosul. The person who discovered Nineveh was a diplomat living in Mosul. Most scholars at the time thought that Nineveh was a biblical myth. This was in the 1840s or 50s. Otto will straighten me out, as usual.
Otto Nieminen wrote:It's a bit sad that we are talking of sites and peoples by foreign names, but as they have been used for so long (long before cuneiform was deciphered) it is impossible to change this.
Mark Lipton wrote:
'Twas always thus, Otto. "History was written by the winners," as they say (not true, either, but that's another topic). See how many educated people can give you Xerxes's actual name.
Otto Nieminen wrote:Botta however quickly tired of the site because he only found accumulated mudbrick ("archaeology" back then was more treasure hunting - in fact just what American troops are doing there right now....Howie, I'm sorry to hear your son has to be there, but can you tell him and his friends to not touch anything, please. An archaeological object has absolutely no value at all unless it is found and recorded in context.).
Howie Hart wrote:Otto - I will forward this thread to my son and mention it next time I talk with him. In fact, it will be high on my list of recommendations, right behind "Keep your head down" and "Don't volunteer for anything".
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