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Postby Robin Garr » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:07 pm

We're enjoying a Gascogne Gros Manseng with spicy Sichuanese tonight. A new entry in the Wine (multi-) Century Club for me. Who's tried it? Opinions?
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Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:06 am

Quite a fan as is Tim I think? I prefer GM in a blend most times. Remember this wine I noted?>

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48737&hilit=gros+manseng

Wines from Saint Mont and the Plaidmont Cooperative, particularly whites, are ones to seek out. Fresh, vibrant and very fruity aperitif style wines, many at only 11.5% and under $20 Cdn.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Tim York » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:15 am

Bob, I'm a fan of Jurançon but am not able to distinguish between the contributions of Gros & Petit Manseng or Courbu. I also like Pacherenc du Vic-Bihl made from the same cocktail but with more Petit M, I think. AFAIK I've never had a wine from another appellation with G or P M in it, apart from a sip and spit of an excellent Irrouléguy.
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Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:26 am

Good update Tim. We should mention to Robin the Paul Strang book..Southwest France which has tons of info on Manseng, G and P!
I must retry Brumonts Gros Manseng/Sauv Blanc that I have tasted once before. Maybe David B will like it :) .
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Postby Tim York » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:34 am

Just thinking about the wines make me want to get into my car and drive about 800km to explore the region which I don't know very well. Paul Strang's book is an excellent guide apart from the poor quality maps, but I have others. It has been very hot, 40°C+, in some parts of the south-west this week but probably cooler in the hills where the good wines come from.
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Postby Tim York » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:46 am

Thinking about this a bit more, I recall doing a little bit of book research into G&P Manseng and Courbu at Jenise's urging viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48140&p=395685&hilit=courbu#p395685 and there was some more discussion in the thread about it.
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Postby Peter May » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:30 am

My first experience of a varietal Gros Manseng was at a dinner where the starter was honeydew melon with parma ham and the wine paired with it was a southern French Gros Manseng. It made a sensational match, and we enjoyed the wine and there afterwards bought cases of it until the wine supplier could no longer source it.

I was very surprised on my first wine visit to Virginia to find Petit Manseng so widely planted, but the wines were, to my tastets, mostly made a little too blandly sweet.
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Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:57 am

Appears to be some Jurancon down in Calgary at MetroVino (JURANCON 'CLOS UROULAT) , as usual slim pickings around here :( .
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Postby Robin Garr » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:29 am

Thanks, guys. This was Maison Legrand 2012 Gros Manseng Côtes de Gascogne, good stuff for around 10 bucks. I'll post more details later, but it was an interesting wine, kind of a contrast between a light nose of apples and pears, which contrasted against a textured, almost oily mouthfeel full of peach and mango. Odd shift from nose to palate, but dry and appropriately acidic. Nice wine.
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Postby Rahsaan » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:50 am

Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Appears to be some Jurancon down in Calgary at MetroVino (JURANCON 'CLOS UROULAT) , as usual slim pickings around here :( .


Yes, but as you perhaps know, Uroulat is one of the top producers. Not a bad selection to pick.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Tim York » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:20 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Appears to be some Jurancon down in Calgary at MetroVino (JURANCON 'CLOS UROULAT) , as usual slim pickings around here :( .


Yes, but as you perhaps know, Uroulat is one of the top producers. Not a bad selection to pick.


Yes, Charles Hours at Uroulat is an excellent producer. You need to check whether the cuvée at MetroVino is dry or sweet. The dry cuvée which I buy is called cuvée Marie; it sometimes tastes woody when young but in my experience the wood integrates well with a little age. I think that the wine labelled simply Clos Uroulat is sweet but very good of its kind.
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Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:59 am

OK, thanks Tim. I will email and find out.
Not too many GM fans here eh, looking over the response to Robins question :( .
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Postby JC (NC) » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:15 pm

I believe I had a Virginia wine that combined Petit Manseng and Gros Manseng. Haven't had it as a stand-alone varietal as far as I can recall.
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Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:45 pm

JC, that would be of interest I think. I am reading a lot about wines from Virginia on this forum.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Mark Lipton » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:18 pm

Like Tim, my Manseng experience is mostly from Jurançon, and I'm unable to tease apart the various players in those wines.

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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Dale Williams » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:20 pm

Like others, my GM experience is all blends- Juracon (with petite manseng, corbu, etc), or CdGascogne SB/GM blends.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:25 pm

Well, I went looking for the GM/SB blend from Brumont but found out it was the `08 vintage, and a very shabby store too! Clerk told me " it has been reduced to $6.00 along with the Naked Eye and Painted Turtle wines there". Pass :) .
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:47 pm

2012 Famille Fezas Domaine Chiroulet Vin de Pays des Cotes de Gascogne La Cote d`Heux.

Good natural cork, 13%alc, Lot 01, Gros Manseng, some malo, 6th generation of the Fezas family.

Light lemon in color, soft white stone fruits on the nose with a hint of spice.
Initial entry thought is off-dry, nice mineral type finish, not too citrussy, peach grapefruit. Refreshing and held up well over 2 nights so has some real structure.I consider this wine to be an excellent deal and would think readily available south of the border.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Andrew Bair » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:15 pm

To echo what others have said, all but one of the wines that I've had that were 100% Gros Manseng were Jurançon Sec. The exception, as well as the least interesting wine I've had from this grape, was a VDP des Côtes de Gascogne from Domaine des Cassagnoles, Reserve Selection Cuvée Gros Manseng. This was only about $10, however, and the Uroulat can cost 3x that.

Nobody has mentioned Earl Barrère's Jurançon Sec Clos de la Vierge, but I've had it a couple of times, and think that it is a really nice wine for about $20 - less than comparable examples that I've tried from Uroulat and Cauhape.

Finally, the Plaimont co-op wines that Bob mentioned are great values, but I haven't seen them in years.
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:37 pm

Andrew, your Gros Manseng seems to be readily available in the UK :D .


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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:50 am

Mark Lipton wrote:Like Tim, my Manseng experience is mostly from Jurançon, and I'm unable to tease apart the various players in those wines.

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Mark et al: Here is a Jurancon I have just found in the cellar, it`s the `06 Clos Lapeyre Jurancon Sec Vitatge Vielh de Lapeyre.
I am thinking it might be ready eh?
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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Mark Lipton » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:26 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:
Mark Lipton wrote:Like Tim, my Manseng experience is mostly from Jurançon, and I'm unable to tease apart the various players in those wines.

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Mark et al: Here is a Jurancon I have just found in the cellar, it`s the `06 Clos Lapeyre Jurancon Sec Vitatge Vielh de Lapeyre.
I am thinking it might be ready eh?


Most likely, Bob. Why not pop it and find out? :wink:

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Re: Gros Manseng ...

Postby Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:40 pm

In the line up as I speak! Have a half bottle of Saumur-Champigny to get thro` first :D .
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