WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

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WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:37 pm

Yep, a dry wine from Barsac. This is a selection of Sauvignon Blanc, but qualifies as offbeat due ot the rarity of dry wines from the "Sauternes" region. I mentioned this wine in a post I did on the main board (see here), but firgured it deserved cross-posting in Wine Focus:

The 2007 Doisy Daene Sec was intruiging, but I really could not decide if it was smoky on the nose or reduced. Either way it was quite tart and grassy on the palate, so not a wine I would pursue. No shock of course - it's Sauvignon Blanc.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby Jenise » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:12 pm

That's right, you hate Sauvignon Blanc, don't you. Definitely offbeat, though, for the reasons you say--I believe I once saw a bottle of dry Y'quem but that's like it in my life time for dry Sauternes/Barsacs.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David M. Bueker » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:19 pm

I've had the dry Y'quem once, and have virtually zero memory of it, so that tells you (and me) something.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby Salil » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:35 pm

Shame. I had the 'G' Sec from Guiraud a few months back, it was a lot better. Probably because it had less Sauvignon and more Semillon.

(I'm not quite as SB-averse as you, there are a good number I can drink without complaints but there are very few Sauvignons I really find interesting and it's frustrating that in Bordeaux and some parts of Australia, that grape basically spoils what could be some really interesting pure Semillon.)
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David Creighton » Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:34 pm

hmmm - well, SB is one of my fav's - esp. from sancerre; but also from bordeaux. so, we are going to dis the sweet sauterne because it is nearly all SB?

anyway, there are other dry Sauternes - not labeled that way of course. in addition to G de Giraud - the 2006 was one of the great wines of this decade for me and still is - there is R de Rieussec and the yquem of course and others i've seen that escape me now.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David M. Bueker » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:00 am

David,

One of the (somewhat) well-known facts 'round these parts is that I detest Sauvignon Blanc. I've tried Sancerre, New Zealand, California, Bordeaux Blanc, etc & never, ever found one I truly liked. There were a few where I could put up with a glass (Pur Sang comes to mind), but never more than that.

Now if you throw in some healthy botrytis then it's a game changer for me. The flavor profile completely changes. I love Sauternes/Barsac in its sweet form. Of course it virtually always has a healthy dose or even a majority of Semillon, but still I love the stuff.

For what it's worth, many people at the tasting where I tried the Doisy Daene Sec really liked it, and it was a unique wine. I just did not care for it at all.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby James Roscoe » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:57 pm

While I do not fall in David's category, I certainly prefer my SB to have some Semillion in it. Of course Sauterne is awhole 'nother level!
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby Chris Kissack » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:01 am

Well, I like SB in its various forms, whether it be old world minerally Sancerre, new world NZ-style, dry or sweet. I've had botrytised versions and late-harvest Sauvignon auslese from Austria. I also enjoy the combination of Sauvignon and oak, such as in Pavillon Blanc du Chateau Margaux and in Cloudy Bay's Te Koko, although I acknowledge that this combination seems to be enough to make some people retch with disgust (I speak figuratively - I think!). :)

I have been doing a little Languedoc tasting recently as I have been passing the time near Limoux, a holiday, in recent weeks. I have encountered oak-fermented and barrel-aged (short-period, 4-6 months) Sauvignon, as well as the most fresh and fruity Languedoc Sauvignon vin de pays I have ever tasted, which if you approached it blind you would probably guess New Zealand as the origin (a real surprise as most Languedoc Sauvignons I tried tend to be a bit flabby rather than fresh). I could see the good points in both wines, but I understand that they aren't really everybody's 'cup of tea'.

I judge in the Loire category for the Decanter World Wine Awards where we faced this year two whole mornings of Sauvignon Blanc - that is probably the situation when I am most likely to find the variety to be 'hard work' - but wouldn't anybody?! :D
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David Creighton » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:35 pm

fwiw - sauterne and barsac do not usually have a healthy dose of semillon and certainly not a majority. older books can no longer be trusted because replanting has been almost exclusively with SB.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David M. Bueker » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:18 pm

David,

All of the references I have come across point to Semillon being the dominant grape.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David Creighton » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:45 pm

a hundred lashes with a wet noodle - had my grapes reversed.
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Re: WTN: 2007 Doisy Daene Sec (Barsac)

Postby David M. Bueker » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:59 pm

David Creighton wrote:a hundred lashes with a wet noodle - had my grapes reversed.


boiling up the pasta now :wink:
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